Cream Legbar Pullet or Cockerel

[NatJ]

Pullets/hens can crow rare but they can or make a crow-ish sound

Yes, but crowing pullets are much rarer than crowing cockerels.

And crowing pullets that also look like cockerels are rare enough that I usually pretend they don't exist

 

[TORIMILLS]

My family and I got day old chicks from a local hatchery back in August. We paid for what was supposed to be a Cream Legbar pullet chick, and we’re told it was a KNOWN pullet because they’re auto-sexing. Well, Patty started looking suspicious right out of the gate with large, bright comb & wattles, but we opted to be patient and wait it out…well my son said he caught Patty crowing this morning

This past weekend we had picked up a couple more chicks from the same hatchery and decided to get another CL pullet (we were very specific to order a pullet). Now that Patty, is now Patrick, I’m concerned our new CL chick is actually a cockerel As it looks very similar to Pat as a chick.

Do you think the new chick is a pullet? Did we get duped twice or is this a common mix up? We are newbies to chicken raising, but I would think a reputable hatchery would know the difference in an auto-sexing breed. I attached pictures of the new CL chick and Pat as a new chick for reference.

By what I understand with the chipmunk stripe is that the stripe should be unbroken on a female. You can definitely tell the stripe is broken, not solid from head and neck and down the back, in the pictures of young Patty. I'm having trouble telling with the new chick. I'm new to this but was watching a video from Alchemist Farms IG about determining male from female in auto sexed chicks. I'll go back and look it up and see if I can help further.
*I looked at it again and I believe you do indeed have a female. The stripe doesn't seem to be broken at the neck.

 

[PRchick]

I have experience with CL and usually the stripe has to be unbroken from the head to the body. You really need to see them together, but the females are darker and the stripe is a lot more defined. But sometimes the auto-sexing does not work too well. I just hatched six and I was certain I had 3 boys and 2 girls. The sixth was iffy because the stripe was broken and not as dark, but still pretty defined, but there was not a lighter patch on the head. I wish I had taken pictures. I counted it as a pullet and now that they are 6 weeks old, I have been able to confirm because the cockerels have very noticeable combs and wattles and the pullets don't. It is also my experience that their combs and wattles show very early.

By 6 weeks or earlier you will see a comb an wattles if it is a cockerel, just like you could with Pat at 4 weeks.