Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

[CibolaChooks]

Somone needs to read the first 40 pages of the SOP.

Walt

someone better do this before walt gives up hope for us. He cant keep saying this and not get frustrated sooner or later. seems like to many answers are right at our finger tips if we all just had one. where is the best place to buy one.

 

[CibolaChooks]

60 bucks wt. haha i will have to wait till the end of the month to get one.

 

[KPenley]

You folks can post any Standard you have for the Legbar as it is not published yet by the APA. The Buckeye Club was given permission to publish PART of it. All the APA material is covered by a copyright and the APA very seldom lets anyone post it word for word.

Someone here needs to have the 2010 SOP to put this together correctly. There is a lot more info needed than the breed description. Somone needs to read the first 40 pages of the SOP.

Walt

The SOP committee has the 2010 and 1938 editions of The American Standard of Perfection, as well as the British Poultry Standards 6th edition. We just posted the shape and color descriptions to start conversations and give breeders something to breed towards. Once the history is downsized to a printable size, it will be released in second draft form along with the Economic Qualities, Disqualifications, and Standard Weights sections

As an update to all, I will be mailing off our questions about shafting and the color cream to two UK poultry judges tomorrow. It will take a bit of time to receive answers, but they are coming!

 

[KPenley]

60 bucks wt. haha i will have to wait till the end of the month to get one.

Keep your eyes on the Buy/Sell/Trade forums here too. I found my 2010 copy for $50 shipped.

 

[normanack]

Someone here needs to have the 2010 SOP to put this together correctly. There is a lot more info needed than the breed description. Somone needs to read the first 40 pages of the SOP.

Walt

I know you've probably answered this a million times -- when is the next edition coming out, and how do the illustrations compare? (same, more, less, photo vs. illustration)

 

[CibolaChooks]

The SOP committee has the 2010 and 1938 editions of The American Standard of Perfection, as well as the British Poultry Standards 6th edition. We just posted the shape and color descriptions to start conversations and give breeders something to breed towards. Once the history is downsized to a printable size, it will be released in second draft form along with the Economic Qualities, Disqualifications, and Standard Weights sections

As an update to all, I will be mailing off our questions about shafting and the color cream to two UK poultry judges tomorrow. It will take a bit of time to receive answers, but they are coming!

the disqualifications might be one of the things to print out now. maybe the most important thing. its probably the best thing to help allot of us know what to cull for or work towards.

 

[KPenley]

the disqualifications might be one of the things to print out now. maybe the most important thing. its probably the best thing to help allot of us know what to cull for or work towards.

ASAP, we need to hear back from the UK judges before that can be finalized

Sorry that this is a slow process, but we really do want to get it right! Thank you to everyone who has been, and continues to be, such a huge help to the Cream Legbar Club and owners here in the USA!

 

[fowlman01]

I know you've probably answered this a million times -- when is the next edition coming out, and how do the illustrations compare? (same, more, less, photo vs. illustration)

Unless it is a reprint there is always more illustrations. The SOP is in what as known as the Revision mode. In other words we are making some significant changes. There will be an exact reprint in the near future and in 2-3 years down the road the revised edition will have additional info that is not found in the SOP now. Most of that is addition of new breeds. The first 40 pages will not change. The revision will have Marans and other newly accepted breeds/colors that do not appear in the 2010 edition.

Walt

 

[fowlman01]

someone better do this before walt gives up hope for us. He cant keep saying this and not get frustrated sooner or later. seems like to many answers are right at our finger tips if we all just had one. where is the best place to buy one.

Overall I think you folks are doing it the right way. It is not something to rush. It seems as if most are new to this breed and many new to chickens in general. It's not a good idea to rush into something before you even know how the birds breed.

I have a lot of patience if I think people are really trying, but sometimes lose it when someone just drops out of the sky with crazy input that shows they have not read the whole thread. Anyone really interested in this needs to know where you are at this moment. Would I have had this much patience 40 years ago?.....hmmm.......probably not.

Walt

 

[Darkangael]

You have a good point there Walt. I sometimes get frustrated when it seems people aren't listening to input, but I do try to make sure I find out what the experts* have to say about it.

*expert being anyone who knows more about it than I do, with the caveat that most so called experts are still learning too.