Steen while I may not have birds yet I do have a decent camera perhaps we can get together sometime in town and get some pictures taken.I cant get close enough with my phone and its too bright. Maybe when the sun goes down i can. Ive been needing to get a good camera up here for weeks now. Ill try to remember tomorrow morning. I also kept a pure cream non crested for experiment sake only. she is really grey but has black tips all over. I want to see what she produced for the fun of it. I think you would like to see her to marvin