Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

[stoneunhenged]

Wow a lot happens when I take a few days off lol! Happy new year everyone and thank you to everyone who has shared wing pictures or tried to take pictures of their birds! I would like to keep accepting photos during January so that we can have as many examples as possible of rooster wings to examine. So if you've been lurking and don't have hawks watching for celebrity roos, please share any rooster open wing photos that you may have! I'm especially looking for photos that show feathers of the primaries and secondaries, as well as both sets of coverts. tia

Here's a wing pic of a rooster from Jill Rees's line:

 

[ChicKat]

As someone said earlier - when the appearance of the hen and cock are vastly different, then it would promote dual mating for show-winning birds. Can an SOP be written that would give the person who wanted NOT to do dual mating equal footing in a contest with a person who does dual mating? That remains to be seen.

In this article translated for BYC member Glennis Marsh of Ramona California - Java Hill Farms and on her website.., - written by a genetics expert Sigrid van Dort
http://www.javahillfarm.com/JHF/Articles_files/Sulmtaler%20Condition.pdf

There are a couple of important points IMO. 1. Van Dort says that in the Netherlands they are beginning to think requirements for dual matings are crazy...and it is an indication of a not very well written standard.. 2. The other interesting and important point is that in a crested bird - the male's comb must wrinkle as the size of the crest increases. (sound familiar?)

-- Would this mean if I were to do dual mating I would select a female Cream Legbar without a crest - as my 'rooster breeding hen' - so that the crest (tassel) from the father would be the only crest genetics, it would be small and the comb would have the best chance of being straight. Hence - I have the best male comb -- but the hen that produced the egg from which the best combed male hatched has no crest.

AS dretd said - is this the direction a breed based on economy, productivity and practicality should go? Just sayin'......

The president of a poultry club very near to you won "best of variety" BV for a Black Copper Marans today at the Bluebonnet Classic - always the first weekend of the year. Seemed like not many eggs in the egg show - and that was fascinating, No Cream Legbars entered...but a ton of really nice birds -- So 2014 is off and running in the Poultry Shows... Just think if you had been there, and entered your CLs - well who knows what may have happened. :O)

 

[GaryDean26]

The president of a poultry club very near to you won "best of variety" BV for a Black Copper Marans today at the Bluebonnet Classic -

Yea!!! My cockerel was actually "Reserve of Variety" RV. The BV was a Black Copper Marans Pullet that a neighbor that live 3 miles from me brought. That pullet went on to be Reserve Champion of the Continental Class. I did however beat our about 35 Black Copper Marans to take RV including all the Black Copper Marans entered by 4 different Texas exhibitors that I know have produced Continental Champion Black Copper Marans in the time since the Marans breed was admitted into the APA a little over 2 years. So, it was a really big win considering the competition.

My Marans Eggs were by far the largest, darkest, and roundest group entered in the Brown Egg Category of the Egg contest. Half the people that went by had to touch them to see if they were real. They didn't place though since color and size weren't on the judging criterion, and shape didn't seem to play very much with the judge.

 

[lonnyandrinda]

Wow a lot happens when I take a few days off lol! Happy new year everyone and thank you to everyone who has shared wing pictures or tried to take pictures of their birds! I would like to keep accepting photos during January so that we can have as many examples as possible of rooster wings to examine. So if you've been lurking and don't have hawks watching for celebrity roos, please share any rooster open wing photos that you may have! I'm especially looking for photos that show feathers of the primaries and secondaries, as well as both sets of coverts. tia

I'll go ahead and post the pictures of the cockerel I lost, he was about 12-15 weeks. As he is deceased I will not be able to follow up at maturity. I will say he came from a known cream X cream breeding so definitely double cream yet he was going to have a LOT of chestnut.

Yea!!! My cockerel was actually "Reserve of Variety" RV. The BV was a Black Copper Marans Pullet that a neighbor that live 3 miles from me brought. That pullet went on to be Reserve Champion of the Continental Class. I did however beat our about 35 Black Copper Marans to take RV including all the Black Copper Marans entered by 4 different Texas exhibitors that I know have produced Continental Champion Black Copper Marans in the time since the Marans breed was admitted into the APA a little over 2 years. So, it was a really big win considering the competition.

My Marans Eggs were by far the largest, darkest, and roundest group entered in the Brown Egg Category of the Egg contest. Half the people that went by had to touch them to see if they were real. They didn't place though since color and size weren't on the judging criterion, and shape didn't seem to play very much with the judge.

Good job!

 

[Localheronow]

The sky blue eggs are the main reason I became interested in this breed. I have did lots of research on the breed. I hatched my first batch of eggs six week ago and got six males only one female. Will cull four or five and keep the best one or two. I have ordered more eggs to get more hens. I will do all I can to improve the breed to get those shy blue eggs and to lighting up the breed color.

 

[ChicKat]

The sky blue eggs are the main reason I became interested in this breed. I have did lots of research on the breed. I hatched my first batch of eggs six week ago and got six males only one female. Will cull four or five and keep the best one or two. I have ordered more eggs to get more hens. I will do all I can to improve the breed to get those shy blue eggs and to lighting up the breed color.

Congratulations on the success of your hatch and welcome to BYC and the CL thread. Glad you are joining the effort to produce more CLs in the USA.

 

[ChicKat]

So, it was a really big win considering the competition.

Definitely an accomplishment. sorry for the dyslexia..RV instead of BV...and a very nice cockerel. Blue ribbon for best cockerel right? There's a lot I need to learn about shows...and...I think Anne is going to ask that the Q1 newsletter will have some articles about showing, so that people who participate in shows this year will have more information.

Bundle up your chickens tonight everyone - good luck with the arctic blasts. (Someone did suggest chicken sweaters and caps right -- how about wing,comb and feet mittens?) Can you even imagine?

 

[ChicKat]

Rinda,
sorry you lost your cockerel.

 

[normanack]

...I think Anne is going to ask that the Q1 newsletter will have some articles about showing, so that people who participate in shows this year will have more information.

Yup, already requested two . . . and if I didn't contact someone who is showing, it's not on purpose -- please do send in your observations and pictures!

 

[ChicKat]

Yup, already requested two . . . and if I didn't contact someone who is showing, it's not on purpose -- please do send in your observations and pictures!