Cream Legbars

here is a dark down male for you lonnyandrinda. I would have to disagree about the dark color down coming out colored wrong. its been said so much on here and a bunch of dark downs being culled but enless the barring on this guy is really the wrong kind of barring in the dark down chicks id say this guy is colored just fine.



Whoo Hooooooo! Steen, that is a very nice cockerel. How old? In the first picture he has a nice long back -- and the hackles and saddles are quite light. Lower barring is a nice color of light gray too. Straight comb, yellow legs and beak... Do you have the parent birds, or was he an egg when you first got him? At anyrate -- a beautiful little rooster.

ETA - now that I look, in the first picture, I almost see that elusive 45-degree tail angle, that I don't think I have seen very many photos of. I didn't think it existed. Nice job.
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ETA - again-- what do you have the -- is it 6 or is it 5 points -- just like it is written up in the CL Club's draft SOP? wow.
 
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here is another of him and what i had to work with to get this guy. I need to do some cleaning in the pen but its worth showing anyway what you can get from birds most people wouldn't use. this guy came from the rooster on the right crowing parred with my only correct colored crested cream pullet. Also about the cream pullet. She showed the traits of the first line of imports. the bigger hens who laid the bigger eggs. It has also been said that that first line of cream legbars also didn't usually come out with the correct male coloration(to much color). I don't think anyone really knows and its worth growing out everything because you don't know what your throwing away.


 
here is another of him and what i had to work with to get this guy. I need to do some cleaning in the pen but its worth showing anyway what you can get from birds most people wouldn't use. this guy came from the rooster on the right crowing parred with my only correct colored crested cream pullet. Also about the cream pullet. She showed the traits of the first line of imports. the bigger hens who laid the bigger eggs. It has also been said that that first line of cream legbars also didn't usually come out with the correct male coloration(to much color). I don't think anyone really knows and its worth growing out everything because you don't know what your throwing away.


Just goes to show you........ You probably have just encouraged a lot of people with your post!! ;O)
 
Good to know. Maybe I will mark the dark boy, too, to keep then. The other dark boys I kept grew out too colorful but I've only grown out 3 or 4 of them. The cinnamon tinted ones I have grown out were too colorful, too- and they were the ones the UK breeders said would definitely be wrong.
hmm i didn't know that about the Cinnamon's. I have 3 cream and 2 gold and one i think is a auto seminal red one. and i have 4 younger boys to early to tell
 
Just goes to show you........ You probably have just encouraged a lot of people with your post!! ;O)
I hope so. it really drives a bad feeling threw me when i see people tell others they wont get good color from what they have. No one can ever know that and if you hatch enough as long as the cream gene is present you will get something you can use sooner or later.

edit . Almost everything in life just takes a little patience
 
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Beautiful bird Steen! I'm starting to rethink the whole light versus dark gray chick thing as well. I'm on the opposite end though...I had a beautiful baby boy who was light gray and had a huge white spot on his head! But despite a gorgeous tail, he turned out with large amounts of red, gold in the saddle, and a huge flopper of a comb on his head. We're finishing the freezer camp pen this weekend, and in he will go! London is turning out much better, and he was super light gray as a chick. I think it is is 100% about what your Daddy and Mama looked like
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(or the genes they carried).
 
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Whoo Hooooooo! Steen, that is a very nice cockerel. How old? In the first picture he has a nice long back -- and the hackles and saddles are quite light. Lower barring is a nice color of light gray too. Straight comb, yellow legs and beak... Do you have the parent birds, or was he an egg when you first got him? At anyrate -- a beautiful little rooster.

ETA - now that I look, in the first picture, I almost see that elusive 45-degree tail angle, that I don't think I have seen very many photos of. I didn't think it existed. Nice job.
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ETA - again-- what do you have the -- is it 6 or is it 5 points -- just like it is written up in the CL Club's draft SOP? wow.
I Lost the hen. I think she was getting to some insulation and eating it like cotton candy. The rooster crowing i took the pic of tonight. Him and his dad has 6 points (dad lost his to frost bite) the first is small but you can see it in the 2nd pic of him. And also in the pic of the rooster crowing that tail is about as high as they get. But my hens have the correct angle and have passed that down to every single boy ive hatched I think maybe 2 have gotten the high tail but those were apart of they coyote loss. Ohh yea also he just crowed for the first time this week. I guess hes 13 weeks old. That doesn't seem right but the calender doesn't lie.
 
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here is a dark down male for you lonnyandrinda. I would have to disagree about the dark color down coming out colored wrong. its been said so much on here and a bunch of dark downs being culled but enless the barring on this guy is really the wrong kind of barring in the dark down chicks id say this guy is colored just fine.


He's really handsome! Nice work.
 
Beautiful bird Steen! I'm starting to rethink the whole light versus dark gray chick thing as well. I'm on the opposite end though...I had a beautiful baby boy who was light gray and had a huge white spot on his head! But despite a gorgeous tail, he turned out with large amounts of red, gold in the saddle, and a huge flopper of a comb on his head. We're finishing the freezer camp pen this weekend, and in he will go! London is turning out much better, and he was super light gray as a chick. I think it is is 100% about what your Daddy and Mama looked like
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(or the genes they carried).
yeah only what they carry matters not what they look like, I think i cheated because some of the sisters were lost in the mix with their brothers. I couldn't keep track. one of the bands on the pullets had fallen off even before i got home and some within days later. so I gave up trying.

those brother sister parings will show you what is in the blood.

I took the idea as OK after i read about how when your making a new color you take the first generation of babies and mate the ones that look the closest to your desired look. the brothers with correct color breed to the sisters with the correct color. their offspring you take the closest to the desired form and color and mate them back to an unrelated opposite sex. from there on you line breed. This approach will sort threw what genes you have in one season. And when you breed them back to the unrelated bird you re strengthen the blood and you will be well on your way with getting what you want.
 
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look at the three broody hens. they have somewhere around 18-20 eggs last time i could see in there. there is always at least 2 on the nest. only one at a time can leave it seems to go eat and drink




Also my other broody CL hen has no compassion she let her chicks cry and cry away. if i tried to help them up to the nest she jumps down to attack me and they have learned to get up there themselves.





It stopped by my RIR Roo to say hi before it went to roost.



one is always under her belly and the other sleeps on the perch out in front . this hen might have the least penciling of the hens i have. shes looking pretty shabby but its cute how she puts her wings down to keep her chick warm.

 
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