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[Bantambird]

I can always use more neighbors. If you wanna move to Montana. East part of Montana has cheap land, especially now that the bakken is winding down( oil prices are down) I would love more chicken people!@rottlady

 

[caychris]

I can always use more neighbors. If you wanna move to Montana. East part of Montana has cheap land, especially now that the bakken is winding down( oil prices are down) I would love more chicken people!@rottlady

would love to move to somewhere like that but my wife hates snow

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

I have a question for you CL folks - has anyone had to go through the process of breeding for resistance for Mareks? If so, can you share your experience with regard to how many you need to hatch/grow out for that purpose, and at what age you get a sense of it (I'm assuming POL but I lost one about 10 weeks after POL soooo...)

I have CLs from the earlier lines - all I know is that they are not Rees. I'm trying to make housing and family group plans, and as I have other breeds I'm working with, I'm trying to figure out what numbers are necessary for that goal - I have decided that I always want CLs in my yard, and I want to know how many I need to keep around from a given hatch/spring in case some start to drop (I've got 19 right now - 11 girls, 8 boys). The boys are being impossible, I love my current rooster, and I would love to not keep any of them. The good news is that Dumbledore (obtained from ChicKat) appears to have an iron constitution - living with a pullet with ocular Mareks (so likely shedding a lot), and also undergoing a massive stress with the dog attack, and no sign of Mareks so far. I need to check with her to see if he was vaccinated or not (about to PM her). Then I have one hen that was vaccinated, also living in a shedding coop and also fine. I have the offspring from this pairing of the two disease free birds as my primary group I'm working with (4 girls two boys), but also some from the other affected pullets as well - which, though coming from susceptible genetics, also probably benefitted from maternal antibody... I was going to put the pullets in the egg laying/olive egger coop.

(I know that Mareks is very common, but if you don't want to post about it in your flock here, please PM me - just looking for advice).

Thanks in advance!!!!

- Ant Farm (I hope this post makes sense...)

 

[rottlady]

I can always use more neighbors. If you wanna move to Montana. East part of Montana has cheap land, especially now that the bakken is winding down( oil prices are down) I would love more chicken people!@rottlady

bit too far west for us but

 

[duluthralphie]

Not enough trees and too flat in Eastern Montana for me....

But there would be a ton of good reasons to live in Montana!



I have two roosters I am trying to decided between for possible showing..So let me have it, I think I know the weak and strong points on both , but it is always good to get other opinions..



First one:


















Second one:









Sorry I could not get the same poses on both, they do not like standing still for me.

 

[Sylvester017]

I have a question for you CL folks - has anyone had to go through the process of breeding for resistance for Mareks? If so, can you share your experience with regard to how many you need to hatch/grow out for that purpose, and at what age you get a sense of it (I'm assuming POL but I lost one about 10 weeks after POL soooo...)

I have CLs from the earlier lines - all I know is that they are not Rees. I'm trying to make housing and family group plans, and as I have other breeds I'm working with, I'm trying to figure out what numbers are necessary for that goal - I have decided that I always want CLs in my yard, and I want to know how many I need to keep around from a given hatch/spring in case some start to drop (I've got 19 right now - 11 girls, 8 boys). The boys are being impossible, I love my current rooster, and I would love to not keep any of them. The good news is that Dumbledore (obtained from ChicKat) appears to have an iron constitution - living with a pullet with ocular Mareks (so likely shedding a lot), and also undergoing a massive stress with the dog attack, and no sign of Mareks so far. I need to check with her to see if he was vaccinated or not (about to PM her). Then I have one hen that was vaccinated, also living in a shedding coop and also fine. I have the offspring from this pairing of the two disease free birds as my primary group I'm working with (4 girls two boys), but also some from the other affected pullets as well - which, though coming from susceptible genetics, also probably benefitted from maternal antibody... I was going to put the pullets in the egg laying/olive egger coop.

(I know that Mareks is very common, but if you don't want to post about it in your flock here, please PM me - just looking for advice).

Thanks in advance!!!!

- Ant Farm (I hope this post makes sense...)

I am by no means an expert at roos or breeding. But seems to me I read that one Marek's chick vaccination is not enough to repel Marek's and that there needs to be follow-up boosters? Also, that if a chicken is exposed to Marek's but doesn't show symptoms, later in the chicken's life the Marek's virus will cause internal cancerous growths in adult life. Since so many chicken diseases can show cancerous growths at necropsy a lot of test results will assume that Marek's was the cause of the cancerous death of a chicken. Plus Marek's has about 5 different strains and the vaccine is no guarantee to cover all 5. @casportpony has dealt with so many chicken diseases/issues/treatments/vaccines, and started many threads on diseases this may be a good person to start with and PM a question to.

 

[Bantambird]

Not enough trees and too flat in Eastern Montana for me.... But there would be a ton of good reasons to live in Montana! I have two roosters I am trying to decided between for possible showing..So let me have it, I think I know the weak and strong points on both , but it is always good to get other opinions.. First one: Second one: Sorry I could not get the same poses on both, they do not like standing still for me.

So is that one cockerel have squirrel tail? They have nice crests so far. They don't seem to get their grown up feathers until they are older. The one has a slight curve up front on the comb but I have seen those straighten out with time. I like your color, but my opinion doesn't count for much. I am not seeing gold on the hackles. And just a touch of chestnut on the crest, I love it! The earlobes are nice and bright and white, like they were painted on! Mine have some problems with red earlobes.

 

[Bantambird]

The brother basket revisited. The darkest cockerel is starting to lighten up and look a lot like his brothers. I am glad i got some bands on them! Blackie is on the end in the overhead and second in from the left on the second pic.

 

[duluthralphie]

So is that one cockerel have squirrel tail? They have nice crests so far. They don't seem to get their grown up feathers until they are older. The one has a slight curve up front on the comb but I have seen those straighten out with time. I like your color, but my opinion doesn't count for much. I am not seeing gold on the hackles. And just a touch of chestnut on the crest, I love it! The earlobes are nice and bright and white, like they were painted on! Mine have some problems with red earlobes.

I think that one picture made it look like a squirrel tail. Neither of these two have a squirrel tail. they both have relatively long bodies. The one has a crest the other does not...

I like them both. I was thinking the ear lobes could be whiter.

I hope the comb straightens, but like you said they are both young yet.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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This raises a point about earlobes and I'd like to ask a question - ok, two:

1) What is the typical time course for earlobe whiteness? I ask because some that I thought had reddish earlobes as younguns are starting to get more white, and I would like to know when to evaluate for that (and not evaluate too early if that would be a mistake).

2) What is the genetics of white earlobes? I don't necessarily mean actual genetics (though if it is known, yeah, I'd like to know). I'm more trying to figure out how easy or hard is it to "fix" down the line if you use an otherwise excellent bird with good conformation for breeding.

Trying to learn how to balance selection when there is no perfect bird in a group...

- Ant Farm