Creating a new color/line

Cyneswith

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This is theoretical, but I'd like to hear opinions, because I LOVE color genetics. Not sure if this is the right forum

I've always been a fan of genetics, and I was unaware of both the ZZ/Zw arrangements for birds and the vast array of feather coloration/marking genes (ZZ males makes the breeding process faster). If I had been, I would've been more into chickens than horses as a teen, and that's saying something.

I'm thinking about attempting to create a lemon-laced orpington (buff/cream with black lining, by breeding silver laced over buff) or a new line of Isabel-laced orpingtons (gold laced over lavender). The lemon laced is more tempting because even the "cast offs"/incomplete versions are super cool looking, and I've no intention of becoming a pro at this (selling my pullets as layers and cockerels for, ahem, where cockerels tend to end up doesn't really bother me.) Isabel laced would, I think, be harder to achieve with homelier cast-offs, and it's been done well before... but it's really pretty and possibly worth it.

(I'm not a fan of barred plymouth rocks - yet - but speckledhen's project is fascinating to me. And I'm ooh-ing and aah-ing over the refinements, too.)

My questions:
What color/type would YOU like to breed for?
Between lemon-laced and a new US Isabel-laced line, which would be more interesting to you?
Have you bred for anything? Is there a project you are watching?
Does anyone know of an existing lemon-laced line? (Any breed.)
 
a new line of Isabel-laced orpingtons (gold laced over lavender).
Isabel laced would, I think, be harder to achieve with homelier cast-offs, and it's been done well before... but it's really pretty and possibly worth it.

So are you talking like a gold laced with lavender edging instead of black edging?
And when you say "it's been done well before... but it's really pretty and possibly worth it."
Are you saying youve seen that pattern/color before?
I work with lavenders and it not only dilutes black but pretty much dilutes everything. It would dilute the gold to a more of a straw color.
Is my understanding of what youre meaning off or how would you keep the gold on a bird with lavender?
 
So are you talking like a gold laced with lavender edging instead of black edging?
And when you say "it's been done well before... but it's really pretty and possibly worth it."
Are you saying youve seen that pattern/color before?
I work with lavenders and it not only dilutes black but pretty much dilutes everything. It would dilute the gold to a more of a straw color.
Is my understanding of what youre meaning off or how would you keep the gold on a bird with lavender?
A breeder in England did it - the black is muted to lavender and the gold is muted to cream/isabel.
Lavender-isabel-laced-cockerel-3-204x300.jpg

http://www.keiths-orps.co.uk/large-fowl-2/isabel-lavender-laced-large-fowl-orpington/
 
Completely off-topic chicken-wise, but the khaki call duck, I have a 5 year old drake, given to me at 4 hours old and told he was uncommon - now I'm looking for a mate I'm realising just how much! Would love to help give these guys a boost!
 
Sorry don't check back over here as regular as I used to.

I brought in a Wyandotte that I crossed into the gold laced pen. The Wyandotte was probably actually a blue laced gold, which then produced some blue laced gold chicks. I then worked on keeping the blue gene intact in a few birds as I then bred back toward a correct Brahma type.

I'm still working on getting a good deep red color established throughout the entire line.
 

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