Deep litter method

@Tillicans, are you referring to the hen house (interior space where birds roost and nest) or the run/pen (exterior space where birds have access to the ground)?

You can do DL in both places, but some people, myself included, opt to maintain DL only in the exterior space and maintain a dry, deep layer of bedding in the interior space.

My coop is just a little too small for my number of birds I have, so if I tried to maintain a composting litter inside their poop would quickly throw off the balance of the nitrogen to carbon. My solution is to catch most of the poop on poop trays and remove it. The bedding in the coop stays very dry. I fluff the bedding daily. In the spring I remove the bedding, putting half in the run (so as not to overload it with too much carbon) and the other half straight into the compost pile.

Outside is a different story. I maintain a true DL in the run. I do so primarily as a water abatement measure because my run is located on low-lying land and prone to getting soggy when it rains or there is snowmelt in the spring. It has a thin base of sand (the remnants of a failed attempt to use sand to manage my drainage issues). On top of that is 6-8 inches of wood chips and another 6 inches of organic yard and leaf waste on top of that. In the spring it gets the old bedding on it which helps with any extra spring rain wetness and gives a boost of carbon in preparation for all the nitrogen that I know will be coming in the form of lawn clippings later. I never turn the litter in the run. The birds do that work for me. I occassionally rake it level.

As far as the sand goes, in my case I didn't mind leaving the old layer of sand under my DL. I didn't bother removing all of it because most of it had worked its way into the soil anyway. My soil is really mostly clay, so having the sand there actually worked to break up the clay which did help a little with drainage in my already soggy location. I probably wouldn't apply sand as a base for new DL if the ground already drained really well, but if if it was a wet area to begin with and there was already some sand down I really wouldn't worry too much about removing it.
 
Talk a little you got it, my area is soggy as it is on a slope and when it rains it's a mud bath. I have been half attempting the DL but reading your description now obviously not correctly.. one can only learn by asking questions.. I feel it will need the sand over the dirt to absorb the moisture. Yes, I am speaking about the enclosed run that they spend all day in, apart from free range for 4 hours. My roosting area has a pull out tray and I also do what you do, guess I didn't explain myself before.
Thank you I didn't realise I had to just allow the droppings to do their job makes sense I guess I was tilling the soil for them as some parts are compacted, it's not clay but very hard soil. We have a lot of leaves so I will gather them in a bag and place that in ther too. Sugar cane mulch is just what it says, sugar cane mulched up. It's crystal clear now and I look forward to show you some pictures one day. Many thanks to you both.
 
@Tillicans , are you referring to the hen house (interior space where birds roost and nest) or the run/pen (exterior space where birds have access to the ground)?

You can do DL in both places, but some people, myself included, opt to maintain DL only in the exterior space and maintain a dry, deep layer of bedding in the interior space.

My coop is just a little too small for my number of birds I have, so if I tried to maintain a composting litter inside their poop would quickly throw off the balance of the nitrogen to carbon. My solution is to catch most of the poop on poop trays and remove it. The bedding in the coop stays very dry. I fluff the bedding daily. In the spring I remove the bedding, putting half in the run (so as not to overload it with too much carbon) and the other half straight into the compost pile.

Outside is a different story. I maintain a true DL in the run. I do so primarily as a water abatement measure because my run is located on low-lying land and prone to getting soggy when it rains or there is snowmelt in the spring. It has a thin base of sand (the remnants of a failed attempt to use sand to manage my drainage issues). On top of that is 6-8 inches of wood chips and another 6 inches of organic yard and leaf waste on top of that. In the spring it gets the old bedding on it which helps with any extra spring rain wetness and gives a boost of carbon in preparation for all the nitrogen that I know will be coming in the form of lawn clippings later. I never turn the litter in the run. The birds do that work for me. I occassionally rake it level.

As far as the sand goes, in my case I didn't mind leaving the old layer of sand under my DL. I didn't bother removing all of it because most of it had worked its way into the soil anyway. My soil is really mostly clay, so having the sand there actually worked to break up the clay which did help a little with drainage in my already soggy location. I probably wouldn't apply sand as a base for new DL if the ground already drained really well, but if if it was a wet area to begin with and there was already some sand down I really wouldn't worry too much about removing it.

Well I got up very early this morning to fix up the drainage problem within the coop/run. Girls were horrified to see me!
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its going to be very hot today over the 100F mark for you in the U.S but I gave them some treats to keep them busy while I put in the sand, woodchips, leaves we have so much and sugar mulch, looks ever so good. thanks for your comments now I can be satisfied I'm going about it the right way. The girls seem to be enjoying the bounce in the ground too. very curious what I was doing, hanging about trying to help. Chattering amongst themselves as they do, love my 2 chickens.
 
My project is no where being done yet, but could easily finish screening it in a day or two, minus the coop. I put a shallow, maybe one-two inches, of sand in the entire run, then read the pros and cons of using it.

Rather than trying to remove it, I'm just gonna use my hand-held rototiller and turn it all over and maybe aerate the soil a bit before adding whatever material I can find on top. --BB

Bobby Basham
Tucson, Arizona

Basically, four square sections, 8x8ft each.



I took half of the fourth square to build my observation deck.
That will be left out in the open, but the remaining area will
be completely open to walk through, but screened in, including the roof. Deep litter will eventually hide those 2x6 boards.



I discovered this little tool by accident. I knew there were
some similar gadgets out there that served a similar purpose,
but this one especially caught my attention. Haven't used it
yet, but will give it a try in the coming weeks.

 
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Bobby Basham, how clever are you? I love the garden seat you have put in, I can imagine you sitting and chatting to your girls endlessly. I know I would. I might just do the same in my garden.
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TalkALittle, you may be able to see from my photo how the land slopes especially on the left side, which is where it gets damp. My nesting and roost area is the part on the far left, just a pre-fabricated coop. But the run we got custom made. The DL looks great in the run the girls are very curious.
Many thanks
I'll put some photos up tomorrow.
 
Joining this thread because we had an enormous pine tree taken out and chipped up, and my coop run had been dirt (and some failed sand as well!) which I religiously cleaned out. My flocks all free range, so not much poo goes in the run (it's all on the bottom of my boots from walking in the pasture!! Hah!). But, in truth, I was a little grossed out just covering it up with more chips (and hay and stuff from the garden and nesting boxes). It doesn't stink, but I guess I just want validation that I'm doing the right thing. I can post pics if that would help.
 
If you could till/plow all of it together that would help things out a lot faster. But if time is not a factor, then do what you're doing and then just let nature take care of it.
 

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