Deworming with piperazine Dihydrochoride

[Jaclyn34]

Hi Everyone,

I have 4 hens and found poop with roundworm today, so I'm trying to deworm. I'm pretty new at this. I've already figured out that I need about 5g (5.12) for all 4 chickens of the medication. My question is, is there a way to measure this medication without weighing it? I don't have a scale.

Also, is it okay to inject the medication directly into their mouths (in a syringe mixed with water) or does it need to be fed through feed or water?

Thanks for any help!

 

[DotToDot]

Hi!
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/the-ask-anything-to-nicalandia-thread.1509343/page-405
This is a thread for questions like genetics, doses, and other mathy things. Hope this helps!

 

[dawg53]

I hope this helps:
Piperazine dihydrochloride is an anthelmintic drug used to treat large roundworms in poultry. It is only effective against the adult large roundworm and has no effect on any other species of worms, including tapeworms. It can be given orally by mouth in each bird or added to the flock’s water source. The treatment needs to be repeated in 7-10 days since the drug does not kill the large roundworm eggs. If given by mouth: 50 mg/bird (if younger than 6 weeks of age), otherwise 100 mg/bird (if older than 6 weeks of age), or according to the manufacturer label. Repeat in 7-10 days. If added to flock water source: 3 mL per gallon of water, or in accordance with the manufacturer’s label1
I hope that helps!

 

[Charlene W]

My vet had me buy piperazine for gapeworms. The package directions are a little confusing. I don't have a scale. How do I measure 3 ml to put in a gallon of water. I have the 100 gm package that says each gm contains 360 mg Piperazine Citrate. Sorry if I sound like an idiot. I don't want to overdose any of my chickens. If I have to, I guess I drive back to the vet with the package and ask them. He said it would be good to deworm them with this.

 

[dawg53]

My vet had me buy piperazine for gapeworms. The package directions are a little confusing. I don't have a scale. How do I measure 3 ml to put in a gallon of water. I have the 100 gm package that says each gm contains 360 mg Piperazine Citrate. Sorry if I sound like an idiot. I don't want to overdose any of my chickens. If I have to, I guess I drive back to the vet with the package and ask them. He said it would be good to deworm them with this.

Piperazine will not treat gapeworms. Piperazine only treats large roundworms.
You need to purchase one of these products in order to eliminate gapeworms: Safeguard liquid goat wormer, Valbazen cattle/sheep wormer or Levamisole.

 

[Charlene W]

I didn't see gapeworms listed but thought since he was a vet he should know. So now I have the piperazine and no use for it. I guess I need to go to the feed store next to look. I have about 50 chickens out there and he recommended worming them for gapeworm. I don't see any worms in the feces so pretty sure they are ok on those. Many years ago, as a new chicken mama, we went through tapeworms and the vet in CA where we lived was treating with other drugs and we chased them round and round until I found this site and discovered I can buy Zimectrine Gold equine formula and it took care of it fast and permanently. You guys have better advice than the vets do. Thank you.

 

[dawg53]

I didn't see gapeworms listed but thought since he was a vet he should know. So now I have the piperazine and no use for it. I guess I need to go to the feed store next to look. I have about 50 chickens out there and he recommended worming them for gapeworm. I don't see any worms in the feces so pretty sure they are ok on those. Many years ago, as a new chicken mama, we went through tapeworms and the vet in CA where we lived was treating with other drugs and we chased them round and round until I found this site and discovered I can buy Zimectrine Gold equine formula and it took care of it fast and permanently. You guys have better advice than the vets do. Thank you.

You're not going to see gapeworms in feces since they are attached to the trachea. However, gapeworm eggs can be identified under a microscope. Did you give the vet a poop sample to be looked at under a microscope?

 

[Charlene W]

I took one in with respiratory infection for diagnosis. They did swabs and diagnosed Mycoplasmosis and he gave me a sulfa drug. It wasn't the one that was recommended online for that, but it seems to have helped some. I still have some coughing and may have to try to get the other drugs recommended online if they don't lose the coughs and any get inflamed eyes again. He is a farm animal vet and does poultry. He also suggested I worm them for gapeworms but didn't seem to be saying he saw any in that hen. Seemed to be more a general suggestion since they hadn't been wormed since I got them. Some are yawning so I figured not a bad idea. I do know you can't see them like you can round or tapeworms. Sorry about the confusion. I meant pretty sure they don't have round or tape.

 

[ManOverBoard]

If the medicine doesn't work, try ground raw pumpkin seeds.

We had a pet with almost every parasite known, and after a year if medicines large and small, we finally tried a diet containing raw ground pumpkin seeds. The raw seeds contain something that paralyzes the worms.
It worked within two weeks.

Kefir, papaya, garlic and oregano also help, but the pumpkin seeds were key.

 

[dawg53]

If the medicine doesn't work, try ground raw pumpkin seeds.

We had a pet with almost every parasite known, and after a year if medicines large and small, we finally tried a diet containing raw ground pumpkin seeds. The raw seeds contain something that paralyzes the worms.
It worked within two weeks.

Kefir, papaya, garlic and oregano also help, but the pumpkin seeds were key.

I can tell you from experience that I've used most of the supposed natural wormers in chickens years ago. They dont work. Why? Chickens have a fast metabolism unlike mammals. All that stuff goes out the rear end quickly and it's not effective.
Liquid wormers are the way to eliminate worms, just enough is absorbed into the bloodstream and is very effective eliminating worms. Use Valbazen, Safeguard or Levamisole.
I've dealt with worms in poultry. I know what works and what doesnt.