Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Sally Sunshine]

WHAT happened!! sorry!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

I have a few Andalusians and have some more eggs coming from Dick Horstman for next weeks run. I am going to try crossing them with a white sport cream legbars roo.

I also have some Breda that hatched. I seem to have good luck with blues. I have BBS orps and Jersies and lav orps as well.

At this stage it's just been fun to try and get anything to hatch after a long journey but I need to get down to business.

you didnt say you had a white roo like mine??? Are dicks blues exhibition?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

he isnt npip is he? : (

 

[loveourbirds]

don't ya just love it when technology goes nuts!

a while back i sent sumi a PM and it posted 3 times. i blamed it on the satelite internet - but i really dont know how it happened.

i dont see a NPIP number on his site, but i would venture to say that he is. most people who show are.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

don't ya just love it when technology goes nuts!

a while back i sent sumi a PM and it posted 3 times. i blamed it on the satelite internet - but i really dont know how it happened.

i dont see a NPIP number on his site, but i would venture to say that he is. most people who show are.

blue andalusians are the bird I have been looking for close to here to add to my flock, i had no Idea Dick had them. Brian can you have a look at his site and tell me your thoughts via pm please. I do have a few concerns along with the npip issue. But he is close enough for some great hatch rates.

 

[loveourbirds]

i was also thinking about your white legbars- if its a sport from another breeding, i would try to cross it with 2 show quality white leghorns, and 2 show quality white araucanas. select the most legbar type chicks and breed together. this is just my idea of how i would go about it.

i cannot find any place that advertises them for breeding purposes.

 

[loveourbirds]

overall i would say the quality is good, they arent a breed i know alot about. the lacing appears to be nice on the hens and rooster he has pictured, the earlobes seem to be full white. i think their combs are supposed to be straight, the roosters comb appears nice, the hen's appears to be floppy, but the wattles are to one side too - she may have turned her head as the picture was being taken. overall the type appears to be good.

without having others to compare them to, and a developed eye for the breed, i would put them at 80-90% - i have only put a 100% rating on one bird in my life - and i paid out the nose for him LOL. $200 for a black rosecomb.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

i was also thinking about your white legbars- if its a sport from another breeding, i would try to cross it with 2 show quality white leghorns, and 2 show quality white araucanas. select the most legbar type chicks and breed together. this is just my idea of how i would go about it.

I wont be breeding the white sport but with anything but white sport hens.

I need the blues for another project I am looking forward to. I am looking into two breeds but cannot make up my mind, I have time because I need to make cash and build breeding pens.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Oz is the adoption final? I dont think I saw that posted?

 

[loveourbirds]

Quote: i haven't hatched any from mine yet - but ive only heard of the sports being roosters. i dont know enough on the genetics on them to try to breed for white. however, i think the barring gene is still present in the sports. (i could be wrong) if you ever bred a legbar to true white, it wouldnt be a legbar anymore as the barring would be missing.

if you can find sport hens; i do believe your right - keep breeding sport to sport should lock in the white traits (an overexpression of a silver gene.) the barring would still be present, and you will probably have some color bleed through on a percentage of the hatch. just a guess the color bleed through will pretty well be gone by the 4th generation.

here is an article on how they were bred:
http://www.britannicrarebreeds.co.uk/breedinfo/chicken_legbar.php

you could also breed to full white (i think) by selecting your lightest colored males and females, diluting the gold. eventually the silver gene should overcome the black too.

corrective breeding for color would be to brown leghorn hen, if egg color needs improvement cross in buff araucana. to me it only makes since to breed in dominate white from leghorns, and recross for blue from araucana (white with yellow legs) to lock in the full white color, with the other desirable characteristics.

im anxious to see how you go about this and how it works, as your messing with genes that i dont fully understand.