Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Sally Sunshine]

you know dolfi I have to run dry even in the winter with a coal stove running, it depends on the freshness of my eggs, along with if they were shipped or not too.

And sometimes it does dip below 18% but its only then that I ad a TAD and by tad I am talking I put a little salad dressing cup of water in the cooler. Sometimes you NEED that much lower number to achieve the air cell growth or weight loss you need.

I have a feeling you are in a really humid area chicky!

So perhaps dolfi that you will need to run dry for at least 7-10 days at the start of incubation or something. and perhaps you should switch to a wet bulb reading for humidity

How Does a Hygrometer Work?
http://weather.about.com/od/weatherinstruments/a/hygrometers.htm

Shown here is a WET Bulb Hygrometer and wick
Wet bulb is exactly what it states. It is the temperature relative of the humidity in degrees.
A Hygrometer Wick is placed over the stem of the thermometer and the other end of the sleeve is placed in a jar or pan in the incubator.

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[cochins1088]

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Just to clarify, your egg's lost 4% of their masses. They kept 96%. Unless your eggs were practically empty, they didn't lose 96% of their masses.

Ok I divided 2 weight with 1 weight and the smaller eggs average is from .83 to .91 and the bigger eggs average is from .87 to .91

Your small eggs lost 9% - 17% of their masses.

Your large eggs lost 9% - 13% of their masses.


Your eggs should lose 14% to 17% by hatch. There's a lot of variance in your eggs, but your average isn't too bad.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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Just to clarify, your egg's lost 4% of their masses. They kept 96%. Unless your eggs were practically empty, they didn't lose 96% of their masses.

Ok I divided 2 weight with 1 weight and the smaller eggs average is from .83 to .91 and the bigger eggs average is from .87 to .91

Your small eggs lost 9% - 17% of their masses.

Your large eggs lost 9% - 13% of their masses.


Your eggs should lose 14% to 17% by hatch. There's a lot of variance in your eggs, but your average isn't too bad.
where did you find her previous weights? I am researching more abstracts/studies as the % I am reading in heresay stuff is different than what they do in big hatcheries, so I will definitely be updating the article and adding links at some point as well. And their is actually a different weight loss per breed of eggs if that not confusing enough... I started reading when we were discussing the blue eggs and less losses than the tan eggs a few days ago. If you find anything too Coch PLEASE share linkage! I have A LOT on my plate right now so I have to start focusing.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Busy day today! I have chick pick ups and then cleaning of brooder room and sterilzation of all that,

We are clearing out all coops and runs of snow AGAIN upping gates as we cannot open them, Clearing out bedding, spraying Sevin in them before rebedding them, feeder bleaching and such and on top of it we are doing our Tracheal swabs for AI, ivermecting the birds as we go.

HOPEFULLY the kids will play in the snow and keep out from underfoot this day!! And its snowing

 

[cochins1088]

Quote: where did you find her previous weights? I am researching more abstracts/studies as the % I am reading in heresay stuff is different than what they do in big hatcheries, so I will definitely be updating the article and adding links at some point as well. And their is actually a different weight loss per breed of eggs if that not confusing enough... I started reading when we were discussing the blue eggs and less losses than the tan eggs a few days ago. If you find anything too Coch PLEASE share linkage! I have A LOT on my plate right now so I have to start focusing.

She never said what the weights were, but she said that when she divided their current weights by their original weights she got 0.83 - 0.91 so they must have lost 9% - 17% of their masses.

I didn't know that breed affected optimal weight loss. I always thought that the 14% - 17% applied to most species of eggs. Could you share the link of where you read this?

You said that you're reading information that is different than what the hatcheries use. Could you share those links?

 

[dolfi]

She never said what the weights were, but she said that when she divided their current weights by their original weights she got 0.83 - 0.91 so they must have lost 9% - 17% of their masses.

I didn't know that breed affected optimal weight loss.  I always thought that the 14% - 17% applied to most species of eggs. Could you share the link of where you read this?

You said that you're reading information that is different than what the hatcheries use.  Could you share those links?

thank you. But I only know how to start the weight thing yet don't understand how to get the% part.

 

[R2elk]

thank you. But I only know how to start the weight thing yet don't understand how to get the% part.

Original weight minus final weight equals weight lost.

Weight lost divided by original weight times 100 equals percent weight lost.

Example:

90 grams ( original weight) - 77 grams (final weight) = 13 grams (weight lost)

13 grams (weight lost) divided by 90 grams (original weight) = 0.144 times 100 = 14.4% (percent weight lost)

 

[cochins1088]

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(1 - "your number") multiplied by 100.

For example: 1 minus 0.83 equals 0.17. Multiply 0.17 by 100 to get your percentage. 17%


I tried to keep it as simple as possible the first time, so I simply asked you to find the mass kept. If you subtract that number from one, it'll give you the percent of the mass lost.

 

[cochins1088]

Original weight minus final weight equals weight lost.

Weight lost divided by original weight times 100 equals percent weight lost.

Example:

90 grams ( original weight) - 77 grams (final weight) = 13 grams (weight lost)

13 grams (weight lost) divided by 90 grams (original weight) = 0.144 times 100 = 14.4% (percent weight lost)

 

[dolfi]

(1 - "your number") multiplied by 100.

For example: 1 minus 0.83 equals 0.17. Multiply 0.17 by 100 to get your percentage. 17%


I tried to keep it as simple as possible the first time, so I simply asked you to find the mass kept.  If you subtract that number from one, it'll give you the percent of the mass lost.

Original weight minus final weight equals weight lost.

Weight lost divided by original weight times 100 equals percent weight lost.

Example:

90 grams ( original weight) - 77 grams (final weight) = 13 grams (weight lost)

13 grams (weight lost) divided by 90 grams (original weight) = 0.144 times 100 = 14.4% (percent weight lost)

OK I think I was doing it all wrong.
Some of my numbers, it looks that the size are loosing differently.

First# is Now, and second# is from the beginning
Large eggs 75g 74g
Medium eggs 52g 59g
Small eggs 34g. 37g

Ok I would divid the now # to the beginning#. That was the number I was going with.