Diatomaceous Earth question

[SteveBaz]

DE has never been PROVEN to do much besides kill insects.

There are lots of claims about what it will do, but they can never seem to verify it in controlled laboratory testing

It's basically powdered ROCK, and essentially chemically INERT

here we go again but it is not powdered rock but taken from sea and lake bottoms and is silt that is broken down there and if you mean broken rock and broken down & farmed from there ok I buy that but its not that simple at all. About the claims I will not debate with you again but I have been using DE for intestinal parasite treatment for some time and just have to disagree with you but its OK for you to believe that and you are entitled to your opinion

 

[7L Farm]

The old DE arguement LOL. I grow organic veggies & use DE to kill bugs seems to get the job done. It usually takes a few application. Since, I have the stuff if I remember I use it when I clean the coop out or the nest boxes I'll sprinkle some around hoping to kill any tiny bugs that are lurking in the coop. So, far so good.

 

[bowtie]

DE has never been PROVEN to do much besides kill insects.

There are lots of claims about what it will do, but they can never seem to verify it in controlled laboratory testing

It's basically powdered ROCK, and essentially chemically INERT

That's a lot of ignorance in one post.



DE is not powdered rock. [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Diatomaceous earth is the remains of microscopic one-celled plants called diatoms that lived in the oceans and lakes, these deposits are mined from underwater beds or dried lake bottoms. [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]They contain 15 beneficial trace minerals and silica, which gets absorbed into the blood stream, one of the benefits of silica is that it helps to destroy bad fats.

There has been countless studies done which confirm the reduction of waste order, internal parasites and better feed conversion (upwards of 20-30%), numerous other benefits were apparent as well.

There are producers, ranches, feedlots and training facilities across the country that feed DE, I know of several personally, and have seen the effects of feeding DE.

Texas A&M has done studies on the positive aspects of feeding DE.

University tests confirm DE intake in humans is associated with a significant reduction of serum cholesterol as well as low-density lipoprotein cholesterol and triglyceride levels being decreased.

 

[mstricer]

That's a lot of ignorance in one post.



DE is not powdered rock. Diatomaceous earth is the remains of microscopic one-celled plants called diatoms that lived in the oceans and lakes, these deposits are mined from underwater beds or dried lake bottoms. They contain 15 beneficial trace minerals and silica, which gets absorbed into the blood stream, one of the benefits of silica is that it helps to destroy bad fats.

There has been countless studies done which confirm the reduction of waste order, internal parasites and better feed conversion (upwards of 20-30%), numerous other benefits were apparent as well.

There are producers, ranches, feedlots and training facilities across the country that feed DE, I know of several personally, and have seen the effects of feeding DE.

Texas A&M has done studies on the positive aspects of feeding DE.

University tests confirm DE intake in humans is associated with a significant reduction of serum cholesterol as well as low-density lipoprotein cholesterol and triglyceride levels being decreased.

Well said. I also use DE. I have never had worms or mites. I put it in my nesting boxes, and coop. I find it weird how so many people say it doesn't work, but yet it has been around for a long time. I think the ones that say it doesn't work, didn't use properly. I would much rather use DE, then to poison my birds with cattle wormer. Just my thought.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

here we go again but it is not powdered rock but taken from sea and lake bottoms and is silt that is broken down there and if you mean broken rock and broken down & farmed from there ok I buy that but its not that simple at all. About the claims I will not debate with you again but I have been using DE for intestinal parasite treatment for some time and just have to disagree with you but its OK for you to believe that and you are entitled to your opinion

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That's a lot of ignorance in one post.



DE is not powdered rock. [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Diatomaceous earth is the remains of microscopic one-celled plants called diatoms that lived in the oceans and lakes, these deposits are mined from underwater beds or dried lake bottoms. [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]They contain 15 beneficial trace minerals and silica, which gets absorbed into the blood stream, one of the benefits of silica is that it helps to destroy bad fats.

There has been countless studies done which confirm the reduction of waste order, internal parasites and better feed conversion (upwards of 20-30%), numerous other benefits were apparent as well.

There are producers, ranches, feedlots and training facilities across the country that feed DE, I know of several personally, and have seen the effects of feeding DE.

Texas A&M has done studies on the positive aspects of feeding DE.

University tests confirm DE intake in humans is associated with a significant reduction of serum cholesterol as well as low-density lipoprotein cholesterol and triglyceride levels being decreased.

LOL
Parroted SALES HYPE isn't "proof", and neither are inconclusive "studies"


Let's look at some FACTS vs FANTASY:

ˌdaɪ.ətəˌmeɪʃəs ˈɜrθ/) also known as diatomite or kieselgur/kieselguhr, is a naturally occurring, soft, siliceous sedimentary rock that is easily crumbled into a fine white to off-white powder. It has a particle size ranging from less than 1 micrometre to more than 1 millimetre, but typically 10 to 200 micrometres.[1] This powder has an abrasive feel, similar to pumice powder, and is very light, due to its high porosity. The typical chemical composition of oven dried diatomaceous earth is 80 to 90% silica, with 2 to 4% alumina (attributed mostly to clay minerals) and 0.5 to 2% iron oxide.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth

The "studies" you refer to are not well done, and most of them qualify their findings by stating "MORE testing is needed".

Most of them aren't really "studies" at all, by anecdotal evidence that cannot be proven in a lab


Do you REALLY think if they could PROVE DE reduces Cholesterol that they would have stopped testing after that ONE study in 1998?


If you have more recent conclusive proof,, I'd love to see it.
I know you don't though, and you'll offer up the same one's that have been used before, and don't actuallly reach a definite conclusion

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In all other respects, silicon dioxide is inert and harmless. When silica is ingested orally, it passes unchanged through the gastrointestinal tract, exiting in the feces, leaving no trace behind.

Small pieces of silicon dioxide are equally harmless, as long as they are not large enough to mechanically obstruct the GI tract, or jagged enough to lacerate its lining. Silicon dioxide produces no fumes and is insoluble in vivo. It is indigestible, with zero nutritional value and zero toxicity.

 

[SteveBaz]

Bear Foot Farm,

Why is so important to make so many people wrong? Every time this topic comes up here you go and spam everyone. Why isn't it OK for others to have their opinion and you to have your's.
Cant believe why you can't disagree to agree to make it Win Win. Best of luck to you. No fight here I just believe what I want.

 

[bowtie]

Bear Foot..



On DE: http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/benefits-of/diatomaceous-earth
http://www.naturalnews.com/030688_Diatomaceous_earth_health.html


On silica: http://www.evolutionhealth.com/Minerals/silica-benefits.html






REFERENCES:

1. Mineral resources of Virginia By Thomas Leonard Watson, Ray Smith Bassler, Heinrich Ries, Roy Jay Holden, Virginia. Jamestown Exposition Commission. p.216-217. http://books.google.com/books?id=Gm...+Earth#v=onepage&q=Diatomaceous Earth&f=false
2. http://www.ghorganics.com/DiatomaceousEarth.html
3. http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/diatomaceous_human_use.html
4. Antonides1, Lloyd E., Diatomite, 1997, U.S.G.S. http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/diatomite/250497.pdf
5. http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff17-oxy.htm Survival Information Center
6. http://www.reade.com/Products/Minerals_and_Ores/diatomaceous_earth.html
7. http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/saltresearch.htm

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Bear Foot Farm,

Why is so important to make so many people wrong? Every time this topic comes up here you go and spam everyone. Why isn't it OK for others to have their opinion and you to have your's.
Cant believe why you can't disagree to agree to make it Win Win. Best of luck to you. No fight here I just believe what I want.

I don't "make " anyone wrong.
They do that to themselves when they make claims that aren't factual

I'm not talking about "opinions"
I'm talking about scientific facts

You're still free to "believe" anything you like.

 

[PtldChick]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001191/
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Silicosis is a respiratory disease caused by breathing in (inhaling) silica dust.

Silicosis is not an issue with food grade DE. It can and has been an issue for workers manufacturing industrial grade DE. People who spend 8-10 hours a day, 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for many years, breathing in stirred up industrial grade DE. A dust mask is recommended when working with larger quantities of DE, but not for silicosis. Just like any particulate, including dirt, farm dust, air pollution, pollen, etc., the dust from DE can irritate the lungs.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

You say DE "isn't powdered rock", and I've proven it in fact is nothing BUT rock

All your references are from those who SELL DE, just as I said they would be.

You're falling for the sales hype, and not READING what the studies actually say
Did you READ your sources?


One of them is the same one I used to prove to you it is actually rock.

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