diffrence between cuckoo and barred

[centrarchid]

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As a kid I had silverquill (redquill with grey gene) American games that looked very similar with crisp transition from white to dark portions of a feather. Problem was pattern was not barring I desire. What does the F1 cross between the columbian rock and a bird with barring look like?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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IMO, on a silkie you cannot tell the difference between cuckoo and barring. Agains, a guess is that barring would probably make a better variety, but that it would not look like the precise barring of a plymouth rock, even if pure for the very slow feathering allele--silkie feathering would smudge the bars into a cuckoo appearance. BUT... would probably create a better looking bird.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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I believe I was the one providing you wrong info for once...

K^S is actually dominant over k+..

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In chickens, crisp barring is associated with SLOW feathering. And fast feathering is associated with fuzzy cuckoo barring. You cannot get crisp barring with fast feathering.

Does not matter. I still do not know how to get crisp barring in birds with faster feathering. Woodpeckers and cuckoo birds can do so possible but either needed alleles / loci do not exist in chickens or they are not impresent in the gene pool I am working with.

 

[Chris09]

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Has anyone ever tried this cross?
The reason I ask is because some time back on a exhibition poultry forum there was talk about breeding Barred Rocks for better type and color. A few of the bigger breeders of exhibition Barred Rocks said that you will end up with a big mess and years of work correcting the Barring if you start trying to breed Columbian Rocks into the Barred Rock.

Chris

 

[centrarchid]

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Has anyone ever tried this cross?
The reason I ask is because some time back on a exhibition poultry forum there was talk about breeding Barred Rocks for better type and color. A few of the bigger breeders of exhibition Barred Rocks said that you will end up with a big mess and years of work correcting the Barring if you start trying to breed Columbian Rocks into the Barred Rock.

Chris

I think the big mess is worth if it is known in advance how many generations and how many birds per generation are needed to refix the barring.

 

[chickendales]

who breed cuckoo to black with my polish we breed cuckoo to black all the time what u do

 

[nicalandia]

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Has anyone ever tried this cross?
The reason I ask is because some time back on a exhibition poultry forum there was talk about breeding Barred Rocks for better type and color. A few of the bigger breeders of exhibition Barred Rocks said that you will end up with a big mess and years of work correcting the Barring if you start trying to breed Columbian Rocks into the Barred Rock.

Chris

I think the big mess is worth if it is known in advance how many generations and how many birds per generation are needed to refix the barring.

well.. its should not be that hard..

lets see Columbian Rocks are eb/eb, Co/Co, S/S, THATS ALL....

but if you ask me you are better off using a Show Quality barred roo over your hens, it will save you time, Dr. Okimoto did all the DNA sequencing and test mating, and he seggregated Co from the show quality lines..

 

[Chris09]

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I think the big mess is worth if it is known in advance how many generations and how many birds per generation are needed to refix the barring.

well.. its should not be that hard..

lets see Columbian Rocks are eb/eb, Co/Co, S/S, THATS ALL....

but if you ask me you are better off using a Show Quality barred roo over your hens, it will save you time, Dr. Okimoto did all the DNA sequencing and test mating, and he seggregated Co from the show quality lines..

And if you add Barring to eb/eb, Co/Co, S/S you will basically have a Delaware pattern bird.

Chris

 

[nicalandia]

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Except that they will be E/eb which will make them almost entirely barred..

 

[joe17]

Does a cuckoo bred to a black produce sharper barring? If not, how can you improve the cuckoo barring?