Dilema with neighbor's dog...NOW WHAT?

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Early this morning I went out back to open the poultry pens and found a dog and a suspicious trail of feathers in the side yard. The dog ran away, slipped through a small hole under the fence, & ran to the neighbor's house. I followed her there, knocked on the door, and asked the man of the house if that was his dog. He said yes, & I told him she'd been in my yard & I was concerned for my birds. He said I shouldn't worry, she wouldn't hurt anything. He said he couldn't catch the dog, when he called her she just ran the other way. I told him that dogs can kill chickens just in playing with them, and I was going back home to check on all my poultry (chickens, ducks & geese).

After checking everyone in every pen, I couldn't find anyone missing. Then I went back to check that trail of feathers, and found at the end...
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our favorite Americana rooster!
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Yes, I know about Murphy's Law of Chicken Depredation, it's always your favorite birds that get killed. But good grief, we've had Hawkeye for over 4 years now, he was a really good and handsome rooster, and one of the few of my many birds that my husband actually knew and loved. Hawkeye was "his boy".

His neck was broken and his back end showed signs of chewing, his beautiful tail gnawed down to the stub. He was still very warm and his joints were still flexible, and fire ants had not yet begun to crawl over him. It seems very likely that he was recently killed by a domestic dog, most likely the neighbor's dog who was in the yard.

I tried to phone him but got no answer, not on the house or cell phone. Then I picked up the dead rooster and began walking over there, but saw the neighbor driving away. I tried to wave him back, but he kept going. I got to the door and the dog is still loose in the yard.

I tried to coax her into their screened-in porch but she wouldn't go. I didn't want to open their back gate to try & get her to go in there, because they had another puppy in there & I didn't want it to get out too. The dog was really skittish, had her tail tucked far between her legs, and would not let me get anywhere near her.

I felt I had no other option but to call Animal Care & Control, for them to catch this dog. I would have preferred to settle it neighbor-to-neighbor, but they weren't available. I feared for my flock's safety, that since this dog had already discovered a yard full of fun feathery chew toys, and had tasted blood, that she would be back.

Amazingly, ACC came within an hour, and the officer was able to get a leash on the dog. She was terrific in her ways of handling the dog. She also couldn't get in touch with the owner. She took the dog, took photos of my dead rooster, and gave me a witness statement form to complete.

I noticed by early evening that my neighbor was back home, and had bailed his dog out of the pound. But I did not hear one word from him, of apology or complaint or assurance that the dog would be kept under tighter control.

Now what? I of course will be working to secure all the fences around the yard. But I am afraid this dog will try to come back, especially when no one is home to keep watch. I have ducks and geese that spend the whole day going all around the yard, I cannot keep them confined, nor should I have to. I also don't want there to be animosity between us & our neighbor. Should I wait until they contact me? Or try to contact them in a few days?
 
So sorry to hear that. My condolences on your loss. I have a 4 month old Ameraucana too and she is so neat, I couldn't imagine loosing her.

My recommendation: Get a paintball gun. It probably won't hurt the dog but it will certainly scare the poop out of him. I normally am not one for hurting animals, but if that dog killed my chicken, you better believe I'd be defending my flock.

On another note, this unfortunately is the way of nature. It's instinct. The problem is with the OWNER! He should be pecked at by a giant chicken. Maybe you should shoot him with the paintball gun. HAHA.

Again, sorry for your loss.
 
So sorry for your loss, the man was just likely bummed cause he had to bail out his dog. However it was still pretty insensitive for him to not even say sorry
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Secure your yard, and the man will likely not want his dog to be out again because now he knows that you're not messing around- you'll call the ACC again.

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Best of luck!
 
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sorry to hear of you loss. I too have had a dog problem. I use to let my chickens wander my yard. But I can no longer do so. A neighbor recently informed me that he had seen a dog coming from my yard with a chicken in his mouth. I went out and sure enough my Newly laying Welsummer was gone. They are no longer allowed to roam the yard. But when I catch the dog , it won't be going home again. Thats for sure.
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I would bait a Hav-a-Hart trap and rehome this pup. Silently. I would drive a few towns over and turn it in to the pound as a stray you found along the road.

Around here? I would SSS.
 
Long story short.
The dog will come back for more of your flock.
The neighbor always will give the same story.
You will loose more of your flock until you do something.

A solution you could do:
Take pictures of the damage for evidence.
Call the police and have them see/collect evidence/take their own pictures.
Go over to your neighbors home with the police then present the evidence.

Likely this scenario will end up like no fault auto insurance. No one is at fault since the police/authorities will likely not want to be involved since they "have better things to do other than chickens"

Another solution you could do.
Collect the evidence and inform the authorities, the visit the neighbor with them.
Shoot the dog since he/she WILL come back the next time. Then dispose of it without any notification to your neighbor or the authorities.

Most people do equate your flock as "property" or "pets" as a dog.

You could find out what your local regualtions are concerning your flock, but likely this will be ill defined as to "property" which you could collect damages from as a civil suit. By then your flock will be consumed by the neighbors dog.

Just do a search here and you will find many many posts on your problem and you can come up with your own solution.

Us, its our property and we have told our neighbors as well as all relevant authorities what wel will do as a first offence.
Its our property and livelyhood.
Killing any of any bird in our flock is met with the same.
 
(sigh) Yes, my fence, my share of the blame. Actually my husband's, he's the one who must trim the grass under the wire fence with a weedwhacker
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and insists he's "being careful". I tell him that "careful" and "weedwhacker" don't belong in the same sentence. So now there are places along the bottom row of wire where the cross pieces have been cut. But it's not the fence that divides our properties, there is an entire 1-acre lot beween our houses. Their dog was out of their fenced-in back yard, and left unconfined in their front yard, both early this morning and later when he left home. My boys and I will be spending our days reinforcing the bottom of the fence around our whole lot, then reinforcing the fences around the back paddock where the bird pens are. And waiting for some word from our neighbor...
 
Please do not get a paintball gun. If the pressure is high enough to burst the paintball, it's high enough to do some serious damage (I should know, we have the only Paintball Retriever I've ever seen!). Keep calling AC. Every county is different, but where we used to live, if they picked up your dog 3 times, you had to go to court to get them back. It's not the dog's fault, it's the owner. Concentrate on restraining the dog and getting the owner to man up.

And I wouldn't worry about ticking him off or having bad feelings between you and him - he's never going to be a good neighbor. Oh, and if the dog 'disappears', he's just gonna get another.

You can hot wire your side of the fence so that the pup hits it when he comes through the fence. Not too expensive and VERY effective.
 
I would wait it out. I would not contact him. You already tried talking to him and he is well aware that there is a problem. You tried calling him and he didn't answer. You tried flagging him down and he didn't stop driving. I understand that you don't want animosity between you and your neighbor, but you can't let him walk all over you either.

I would just be friendly if he approaches, and keep my cool. At this point, I'd give him a clean slate and give him the opportunity to do right by keeping his dog contained. I'd go about reinforcing the fencing - But if you do see the dog on the loose, I'd take pictures and call animal control again. I would not wait for the loose dog to breach your security to do something about it because inevitably, he will, and when you're not home. And I wouldn't bother talking to him about it again, since it has escalated and the talking aready done will not have mattered. The neighbor already knows his dog is a menace when out loose, so if it's out loose, take the bull by the horns and call animal control.

I'd also check your local ordinances and see if there is anything else you can do yourself to protect your birds - like SSS.

I would think he would now keep his dog contained, especially since he bailed his dog out of dawggy jail so quickly, but you never know with people. Some people think they have the right to allow their dogs to run at large despite the consequences. People are stubborn that way sometimes
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