- Dec 7, 2011
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It has been a while since I've read this thread. I avoid this thread because of the rudeness I experienced while posting here.
I am glad to see that some other folks are exploring the controlled atmosphere killing method. It works well. For those of you researching the gas method - there are lots of resources out there. The initial set up is a little more costly than a knife and a cone. But don't worry about all the folks who are chastising you for thinking outside of the "box" (lol) or who think that you are weak for wanting to find a better method. I've used knives, limb loppers and CAK. One method is not necessarily superior to the other. A lot of the humane-ness of a method depends on the skill of the person doing the butchering.
I've worked at animal research facilities in the animal welfare regulatory role for a long time. I will continue to make the argument that we treat lab animals way better than food animals. The same species as a lab animal has a different set of pain and distress regulations than that species as a food animal.
When lab animals are killed there are many considerations on the methods and how humane they are. Not only is the animal considered, so are the workers. We have to make sure that the workers in a laboratory handle the task of killing animals mentally.
Here is my point - people come to this thread asking for opinions and trying to research methods to make the slaughter process less stressful for their animals. GOOD FOR THEM! I applaud them for trying to continually improve processes. But then they post here and so many people attack them and accuse them of being weak, or tell them that they should get rid of their chickens and go cry somewhere else, or tell them how stupid their idea is. Not only should we think of the animals, we need to think about the people too. Shame on those of you who are being ugly.
Killing your own food isn't for everyone - and I think that everyone should have to do it at least once. I can guarantee that most of you struggled with your first bird, but the process became easier and you became more skilled at it. But good grief people - be nice to those who come here asking questions and looking for better solutions. Teach them - don't belittle them.
I am glad to see that some other folks are exploring the controlled atmosphere killing method. It works well. For those of you researching the gas method - there are lots of resources out there. The initial set up is a little more costly than a knife and a cone. But don't worry about all the folks who are chastising you for thinking outside of the "box" (lol) or who think that you are weak for wanting to find a better method. I've used knives, limb loppers and CAK. One method is not necessarily superior to the other. A lot of the humane-ness of a method depends on the skill of the person doing the butchering.
I've worked at animal research facilities in the animal welfare regulatory role for a long time. I will continue to make the argument that we treat lab animals way better than food animals. The same species as a lab animal has a different set of pain and distress regulations than that species as a food animal.
When lab animals are killed there are many considerations on the methods and how humane they are. Not only is the animal considered, so are the workers. We have to make sure that the workers in a laboratory handle the task of killing animals mentally.
Here is my point - people come to this thread asking for opinions and trying to research methods to make the slaughter process less stressful for their animals. GOOD FOR THEM! I applaud them for trying to continually improve processes. But then they post here and so many people attack them and accuse them of being weak, or tell them that they should get rid of their chickens and go cry somewhere else, or tell them how stupid their idea is. Not only should we think of the animals, we need to think about the people too. Shame on those of you who are being ugly.
Killing your own food isn't for everyone - and I think that everyone should have to do it at least once. I can guarantee that most of you struggled with your first bird, but the process became easier and you became more skilled at it. But good grief people - be nice to those who come here asking questions and looking for better solutions. Teach them - don't belittle them.