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I don't know that I would not classify Goth with Emo personally. Just like I wouldn't put hippies and punks in the same group despite the close timeframe they occupy... Both my sister and I as well as many of our friends would classify as "goth". She had her reasons and I had mine. Personally I don't have a tolerence for the whining, self mutilating, insuferable personality traits that encompass part of the culture. My sister has that end handled. My interest in the culture was self expression. I liked to challenge the steroetypes of "normal, beauty, propriety". I never self loathed in a way that I EVER thought about cutting or anything so masochistic! Not only did I find how other people experience prejudice based on what they saw in my appearance, but I found how I myself was prejudiced against "preps", and those who LOOKED like the cheerleader/jock type or the "thug" type. To drudge up an old addage, "you can't judge a book by it's cover." this is SOO true, in so many ways!! I fiind human nature intersting in the way that it percieves and accepts or doesn't accept the "different" and how it defines "different" altogether. Perception is not static, things are everchanging. Most of my friends are "conventional" insofar as no one would partition them out to a normal class of regular folk. They are the boy/girl next door. Some of them are "normal" and some of them are "weird". On the flip side, the goth and alternative identified friends that I have are "different". But not in a way that makes them non-contributing members of society...they are still valid human beings that conform to the tenet of "normal", i.e.; education, job, marriage, house, family, tax paying, voting, socially concious.... Clothing is not an accurate way to judge character.
 
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I'm glad there are so many nonjudgemental here at BYC! I'd have to say that some of the most interesting, engaging, intelligent, and creative people I've had the pleasure to meet and befriend look, well, a little different.

My son's best friend is emo (or looks it, anyway) and he's very sweet and respectful.

Unfortunately, people do judge on appearance...I have very visible tattoos on both forearms, and up one arm ( very large, bold, and impossible to miss ) and it seems to be less socially acceptable for a woman to have these types of tattoos than if I were a man. In certain situations I tend to cover up....

I've never went to a parent teacher conference, or a PTO program, or any school function without covering them because I don't want any teacher to judge my boys ( both gifted students ) based on what I look like. I hate that that's the way it is, but it is. With long sleeves on, I look like the girl next door. Don some short sleeves, I look like a punk-rock freak.
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It's been interesting to see the differences in how people treat me and react to me depending on the changing of the seasons. (I'm just a perfectly normal person all winter long, after all)!
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By the way, punk-a-doodle, LOVE that punk poster!! Looks just like half my friends back in high school! Hope you don't mind if I steal it.
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i dont think its overly bad but some kids go very overboard..
 
Haha, not at all, as it isn't mine to steal! Not sure where it comes from. I grabbed it off of a friend's Facebook post. Who, coincidentally is a huge hoster of all-age punk concerts and was formally known as 'the Skull King'. X)
 
There is a man at my allotments (not goth) has some rather dubious tattoes all over. This made me keep my distance but over the last few years it turns out he is one of the kindest people I have met, teaches you not to be so judgemental so take people for who they are not what they wear (even if its multiple piercings and tattoes)
 
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really wouldn't bother me. They are pretty much head to toe covered in scrubs anyway while they operate, and their personal choices that don't effect their skill and knowledge are not my business to have an opinion on.
 
Spacecowgirl...Move to Austin, you won't have to cover your tattoos.

My kids have had at least two elementary school teachers with visible tattoos, a YMCA swim instructor with nipple piercings, and an elementary school teacher with a nose piercing (she's Indian).

My dh's coworker, a manager, at a major computer company has full sleeves, and full leg tattoos.
 
Apparently I am a little more picky about who cuts on me.
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Thier hygiene is not always the best and take a look some time at the average persons attire that is sitting in the waiting room at the inner cities free clinics... they are not wearing a suit and tie. It is just an observation.
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really wouldn't bother me. They are pretty much head to toe covered in scrubs anyway while they operate, and their personal choices that don't effect their skill and knowledge are not my business to have an opinion on.
 
My dh's coworker, a manager, at a major computer company has full sleeves, and full leg tattoos.

Mmmmm, sleeves.
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I'm 30. When I was in high school - it was the 90's and we didn't really have or do emo/goth. We had grunge and skater. I had every different color hair - green dreads at one point.... would wear all sorts of flannel and ripped jeans....camo....army boots. I should get you guys a photo. You'd be surprised to see the difference between me then and the NOW photos on my page. Man, it was a lot of fun. I was a good kid - friends with everyone in the school, in AP/Honors classes, volunteered, a band geek and involved in several orchestras, taught my younger siblings right from wrong and didn't do drugs. I started working when I was 14 and helped my parents with bills. I was taught about having a good work ethic and being a good person.

I think it's funny that people "assume" that these kids are troubled because they dress this way. Note I say "troubled" and not "trouble." I understand that you're noting the difference. Some of these kids simply see it as "fashion" and they choose to represent themselves in that manner. I certainly wasn't a sad or deprived youth.

Don't you think that the preppy girls that wear WAY too tight jeans and little tiny t-shirts that roll up "want attention" just as much as the goth emo kids do? Sure - that's why they dress that way. Jock types may wear muscle t's. Why? Do they want attention too? Just because it doesn't make sense to you or agree with your style, doesn't mean that these kids are any more "troubled" than any other group of kids or that they want attention any more than anyone else. They ALL want some sort of attention or recognition and all kids express it in different ways.

In fact - I appreciate my parents for encouraging me and supporting me. I didn't go over the deep end and tattoo my face so that I couldn't get a job as an adult, but I ended up turning into a successful, kind and creative human being.

I don't believe in stifiling children's creativity. When I am blessed enough to have children of my own, I will support their decisions, so long as they are on a proper path to success as an adult. Should you go to a job interview with green dreadlocks and chains and leather? I don't know - it depends on what you'll be doing with your life/career. I ended up working in Manhattan and wearing a suit to work every day.

The things I won't support are things that will disform or damage your body in the long term (like ear stretching) - or tattoos that are so excessive that they'll harm your ability to make job choices.

Otherwise - go for it. Have fun.

I really liked Deb's comment:

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This. My son went through a period where he dyed his hair black, wore black and painted his nails black and wore black eyeliner. He was still the kind caring child I had always known, just LOOKED different.

I advocate letting kids express personal individuality. It isn't hurting anyone.
 
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