Does anyone here breed mini-manchas?

[kinnip]

I'd really like a few. As it happens I have all the raw materials to make one-- Nigerians and LaManchas. I'm wondering how many generations it takes to get a good example of the breed. Most of those I've seen for sale are 75% LaMancha and 25 % Nigerian. 3 generations if I get the sexes I need, right? It seems like that might make a truly large 'mini' mancha. Pursuant to the topic of sexes, if the first LaMancha Nigerian cross produces only females, is it inadvisable to breed those back to a LaMancha buck? I've never done this, or even watched the process and there are precious few resources. I don't want to explode a doe, but I don't want to lollygag either.

 

[Sparklecoon]

I could of swore that I read some where that it takes four or five generations that would get you a "true" mini-mancha/nubian/anyother breed. I think it was one of the registering bodies websites. Don't quote me. Do a web search for the minidariy goat assiciation (I believe that's what it was).

 

[helmstead]

Ashley here www.sweetgumminis.com is starting a Mini-Mancha program, but she won't have her first gens on the ground until next year. She does have a good information link on her LaMancha page.

 

[kinnip]

Wow, she has some pretty does.
I tried joining a couple of yahoo groups aimed at minimancha breeders, but there's very little content. I have gotten a lot of solicitations, however. I feel like I could figure it all out if I had a good book on livestock breeding. Any suggestions? Doesn't have to be about goats, just planning for livestock genetics.

 

[leeniep]

When you start breeding for Mini-Manchas you should not breed a Nigerian doe to a LaMancha buck, you risk losing your doe because the kids will be to large. You should only breed LaMancha does to ND bucks. Also it takes 3 generations to produce an American registered MM and 6 generations for a Purebred and then only if they meet the breed standards, generations 1 and 2 or registered as experimentals.

The ultimate goal is to have an animal that is closer to 50/50. MM's are a bit larger than Nigi's but no where near the size of the LaMancha is bred correctly. If you look at the TMGR website, http://www.tmgronline.com/ you can find the breed standards for the MM's.

They are a lot of fun

, I just love my Mini-Manchas.

Colleen
www.earknotacres.com
Ohio