Does anyone sprout and resell plants?

[FloorCandy]

I've never heard of those!

I ordered rose bushes from an online nursery last year and received a packet of vine peach seeds. They are melons with a mango texture and a light peachy taste from what I hear. They are supposed to be great when added to apple pies and such. And a nice kid sized melon treat when cut in half with yogurt or something in the center like a little cantaloupe.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

I ordered rose bushes from an online nursery last year and received a packet of vine peach seeds. They are melons with a mango texture and a light peachy taste from what I hear. They are supposed to be great when added to apple pies and such. And a nice kid sized melon treat when cut in half with yogurt or something in the center like a little cantaloupe.

Oh my gosh those sound amazing! I've got to know what you think of them when they're finished

 

[alwaystj9]

Yes, those sound interesting to me, too!

 

[FloorCandy]

Oh my gosh those sound amazing! I've got to know what you think of them when they're finished

I think they’re a good peach substitute for people with stone fruit allergies, I saw some recipes replacing peaches to get the flavor. I can’t wait to see how they are.

 

[clickchicks]

So I contacted a local organization claiming to be a state farmers market group. I asked about the availability to buy table space at a local market, or if they could recommend a good market where I could have a table 1 or 2 days to sell extra plants. I received a reply saying their organization is for members only, and it’s for farmers not just people wanting a table for a day and I should set up a table in my driveway. Super helpful, I live on the last street in a small town backing the woods, it is a dead end at the end of my street that would join the main road, so the only way in is thru the neighborhood, other than the like 6 families on my street, the only traffic we get are people who missed the right street and turn around in ours when they run out of other roads. Looking up a lot of farmers markets I’ve seen many are closed from covid, lack of suppliers, lack of interest, whatever. The one in my own town (seriously 2 tables in the liquor store parking lot on the main road lol) is even shut down. So I’m thinking I should just snip the extras and let a good one grow in each.

Wow, what a strange reply. Our farmers markets here are run by individual organizations, and pretty much anyone can buy table space provided you follow their rules (have the appropriate licencing if you need it, etc).

If you have a market near you I'd just reach out to them directly. Maybe they aren't in cahoots with the state org.

There's a nice lady at the farmers market that I usually shop at that sells started plants. Her table is always very popular!

 

[vall]

There is a thriving backyard crop swap in my county (fb group and regular monthly meetups) so I usually end up giving/getting extra plants from there.
How about parking one block from the market and selling out of your trunk if they won't let you in? That happens here at the swap meets.

 

[AngBantamLuv]

I saw your posts on this super interesting fruit!! So after some google sleuthing, it turns out "mango melon" is a cantaloupe variety.. just with a smooth skin (and much smaller) than the larger size cantaloupe. Vining is so much more convenient! I am interested in growing some mini watermelon.. but I'm afraid I missed the window on getting the seeds growing.. I will try to get those started next March (in AZ).

We are interested in farmer market stands as well.. I hope there isn't the table mafia we have to break through when it comes time to setup!!

 

[Birdsonghill]

In my area, the local jurisdictions do not allow roadside selling of anything! The police or code enforcement soon shows up to shoo you away or threaten you with fines and arrest! BTW, I could stand there and beg for money , No problems, usually, for all the beggars. Some few roadside vendors, evidently bribe or are related to the authorities and set up without being harassed at certain locations. They demand most people, to have street vendors license/ business license, no signage without a sign permit, pay personality taxes assessed on all your assets used to produce, handle and sell your product and including all office/record keeping equipment in that inventory of assets. Not to be parked or standing within the public right of way (often 10 to 25 feet back from the highways edge and excepted for emergency only) is also a State law. Written permission or proof of ownership/rental is required to park/sale near the roadside for vendors, even off of the Public right of way. A few businesses (Tractor Supply allows some parking lot sales) allow farmers to sale, but it is usually crowded with vendors, many reselling commercial/wholesale(non local) bought produce and fewer buyers and you often have no room to set up, if you don't get there hours before the store opens. The large "farmers Markets" have expensive fees, most, often sale commercial "imported" crops, more than any local produce and are usually filled up with "regulars" who get first shot at space, not already leased by them. I am a guerilla roadside "vendor" occasionally these days! I park in a safe place near a busy neighborhood and set up for about 30 minutes to an hour at a time and choose a different location most consecutive days to avoid the chamber of commerce Gestapo! I live on a dead in road, off the beaten path and have sometimes not even been able to give away excess crop from my Private homesteads road frontage, with large signs offering the organic fed produce free! I grew about 150 crimson sweet watermelons in excess of what my family ate the last few years and sold about half on the roadside, moving often due to the police in two separate counties/towns, last year, near my home. I can not afford to buy all the license, pay personality taxes on my equipment and assets, stall rental(if available) and record keeping for selling a few hundred dollars worth of produce each year! If they treat me like a business, than I should be able to be classified as a farm producer and be eligible for tax right offs and etc. But No! The IRS and the State of Tennessee require you to show a profit and that farming activities to be a sizable portion of your income to qualify as a business, along with extensive record keeping! The few hundred dollars help defer some of my expenses but a profit on all my gardening /farming sizable enough to qualify for IRS or in State farming occupation is not possible for me now! Most of my garden is for family consumption. My income is mostly from social security and close to the official poverty line, but they are concerned about me hurting the economy or local merchants with my huge operation(not) or cheating the government out of my huge(not)tax bill ! HA HA! Walmart and Kroger, appear to be another big reason, why the authorities go after me and others, that might sale a small amount of their occasional local garden produce. If I could get them to buy my usually, superior produce, I would sale it cheap to them. Alas, what do you do, when you have no money, lots of fresh and quality garden produce and the authorities will not allow you to sale it, without satisfying many financial requirements, that are unreasonable for poor, nearly subsistence farmers/gardeners? I give away a lot! Glad to help people, but most of the recipients have more resources than I do and I am relying more and more on a couple of friends who purchase or give me help with supplies occasionally, as my income does not cover all my farm gardens expenses anymore! I have, though harassed and threatened, managed to take in a few hundred dollars from sales, the last two years, despite the uniformed lackeys working for the tyrants at city hall and the chamber of commerce. It helped purchase some of the years seeds and supplies. It is a sad state of affairs for low income rural seniors to be treated worse than beggars, for merely trying occasionally, to sale a portion of their gardens produce in a safe and respectful manner(instead of panhandling) , along a deserted and buildingless stretch of roadside, with wide and good shoulders to pull off on to and keeping well off the road. Just saying, it is not right or moral, to deny small and poor gardeners the ability to sale their excess crops for cash, without meeting the description of a Farm business, with profits, making up a sizable portion of their income. Making $25,000 per year, I would have to show a $5,000 profit on at least every third year to qualify as a farm business in Tennessee, 20% or more of total income from the farming! That is selling a lot of tomatoes or watermelons! Then I would have to have a new tractor, employees, a large truck, a new building and a lot more! I can't do that anymore! Or, I could just be a criminal or beggar and ignore the law or be exempted from being banned from the roadside due to protection for beggars status.

 

[FloorCandy]

In my area, the local jurisdictions do not allow roadside selling of anything! The police or code enforcement soon shows up to shoo you away or threaten you with fines and arrest! BTW, I could stand there and beg for money , No problems, usually, for all the beggars. Some few roadside vendors, evidently bribe or are related to the authorities and set up without being harassed at certain locations. They demand most people, to have street vendors license/ business license, no signage without a sign permit, pay personality taxes assessed on all your assets used to produce, handle and sell your product and including all office/record keeping equipment in that inventory of assets. Not to be parked or standing within the public right of way (often 10 to 25 feet back from the highways edge and excepted for emergency only) is also a State law. Written permission or proof of ownership/rental is required to park/sale near the roadside for vendors, even off of the Public right of way. A few businesses (Tractor Supply allows some parking lot sales) allow farmers to sale, but it is usually crowded with vendors, many reselling commercial/wholesale(non local) bought produce and fewer buyers and you often have no room to set up, if you don't get there hours before the store opens. The large "farmers Markets" have expensive fees, most, often sale commercial "imported" crops, more than any local produce and are usually filled up with "regulars" who get first shot at space, not already leased by them. I am a guerilla roadside "vendor" occasionally these days! I park in a safe place near a busy neighborhood and set up for about 30 minutes to an hour at a time and choose a different location most consecutive days to avoid the chamber of commerce Gestapo! I live on a dead in road, off the beaten path and have sometimes not even been able to give away excess crop from my Private homesteads road frontage, with large signs offering the organic fed produce free! I grew about 150 crimson sweet watermelons in excess of what my family ate the last few years and sold about half on the roadside, moving often due to the police in two separate counties/towns, last year, near my home. I can not afford to buy all the license, pay personality taxes on my equipment and assets, stall rental(if available) and record keeping for selling a few hundred dollars worth of produce each year! If they treat me like a business, than I should be able to be classified as a farm producer and be eligible for tax right offs and etc. But No! The IRS and the State of Tennessee require you to show a profit and that farming activities to be a sizable portion of your income to qualify as a business, along with extensive record keeping! The few hundred dollars help defer some of my expenses but a profit on all my gardening /farming sizable enough to qualify for IRS or in State farming occupation is not possible for me now! Most of my garden is for family consumption. My income is mostly from social security and close to the official poverty line, but they are concerned about me hurting the economy or local merchants with my huge operation(not) or cheating the government out of my huge(not)tax bill ! HA HA! Walmart and Kroger, appear to be another big reason, why the authorities go after me and others, that might sale a small amount of their occasional local garden produce. If I could get them to buy my usually, superior produce, I would sale it cheap to them. Alas, what do you do, when you have no money, lots of fresh and quality garden produce and the authorities will not allow you to sale it, without satisfying many financial requirements, that are unreasonable for poor, nearly subsistence farmers/gardeners? I give away a lot! Glad to help people, but most of the recipients have more resources than I do and I am relying more and more on a couple of friends who purchase or give me help with supplies occasionally, as my income does not cover all my farm gardens expenses anymore! I have, though harassed and threatened, managed to take in a few hundred dollars from sales, the last two years, despite the uniformed lackeys working for the tyrants at city hall and the chamber of commerce. It helped purchase some of the years seeds and supplies. It is a sad state of affairs for low income rural seniors to be treated worse than beggars, for merely trying occasionally, to sale a portion of their gardens produce in a safe and respectful manner(instead of panhandling) , along a deserted and buildingless stretch of roadside, with wide and good shoulders to pull off on to and keeping well off the road. Just saying, it is not right or moral, to deny small and poor gardeners the ability to sale their excess crops for cash, without meeting the description of a Farm business, with profits, making up a sizable portion of their income. Making $25,000 per year, I would have to show a $5,000 profit on at least every third year to qualify as a farm business in Tennessee, 20% or more of total income from the farming! That is selling a lot of tomatoes or watermelons! Then I would have to have a new tractor, employees, a large truck, a new building and a lot more! I can't do that anymore! Or, I could just be a criminal or beggar and ignore the law or be exempted from being banned from the roadside due to protection for beggars status.

I see more and more that the government wants us to rely on their approved supply chains from big box stores. Apparently Bill Gates now owns more farmland than anyone else, how are small farms supposed to keep up? And if they even try, laws are passed that only the wealthy can comply with.

If you own a livestock farm, the HSUS (Humane Society of the United States) will lobby for laws that say you are cruel, they’ll confiscate your animals and put them down or sell them for pennies to a factory farm. They do not run shelters, never confuse them with local humane societies.

If you grow produce, the Man will come and demand documentation you don’t have and can’t afford. If you try to follow their rules and contact someone about how to do this, you’ll be told to call someone who tells you to call someone else who then tells you to call someone else and eventually someone tells you to call the first person, then you’re back at the beginning, and while you’re trying to comply, you’ll start receiving fines and threats of prosecution, while the billionaires accidentally poison people and animals and get a slap on the wrist and a stern talking to.

Now humans are a problem because we hunted the bison to near extinction, but if you try to raise a herd of cattle on the same land, the media says their poop causes greenhouse gasses and environmental decay, and we should all stop eating beef and limit ourselves to 1 helping per week. The obvious answer is for us to all eat fake “better than meats” made of processed soys, dyes, sodium, chemicals and other nonsense that makes men grow boobs! You can eat healthy, be vegan even, without eating processed pastes made to resemble other foods. I’m really tired of hearing about climate change, and how we all need to do our part, meanwhile the same people accusing us and making these laws are taking a private jet to travel 60 miles! I reuse items until they fall apart, I compost, I plant trees and bushes, I grow fruits, vegetables, and poultry, but some recent college grad knows best because their professors all drank the Kool aid, and they go down to the condo monstrosities that tripled my towns population and get voted in by the Karen’s who want everyone to know how progressive they are for taking my 7 year old neighbors rooster away!

 

[drumstick diva]

Thank you for your post, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am 74 and the earlier years of my life were (thankfully) not like the ones now. I was even able to have a dog kennel because our Village was so tiny(and maybe backward) that no dog laws existed. They did bring it up at a town hall meeting (my parents attended) and a few folks admitted they had dog kennels(but, did not give their location)

I was not allowed to have a sign that said "Puppies for sale." But, most of what I sold were show quality so I was able to advertise in Breed magazines and sell generally with pups being sent out of state via air shipping.

At one point our state determined there should be licenses and inspections for dog kennels. A lady came out once and told me I had to pay $ 25. for a kennel license. I was still a teenager and easily suckered. I don't think I ever got an actual license but, she never came back. Funny thing, she told me she was also to inspect kennels in Chicago but, if the people refused to allow it - she didn't press them. Smart woman.