Dogs ran away

[Katy]

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The problem is, if they don't know why they are being shocked, it won't do any good at all. It is one thing to give a shock when your dog growels at your livestock, and another if you just willy nilly give it a shock for running off while it thinks it is playing.

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[FireTigeris]

I don't know picture this.

Somebody in school 'lied' or 'misrepresented' to some space aliens and said you were very good and smart, they think this means you can do nuclear physics and understand German...and never talk back or misbehave and only use one leg to walk (because that's good in their culture)

A space alien comes to earth and only speaks some of your language, (pick any two of the following: No Come, sit, stay, down, heel, go play, fetch, outside)

They take you away from where ever you are that you get food and know other of your own kind (adoption kennel for dogs so school for you)

They expect you to know things and do stuff a particular way, but you can't really understand them.

You are now on a different planet, nothing is the same here. You are nervous and you only kinda sometimes like your brother who they brought along.

Then they make all of the muscles of your body jump, at the same time they yell and you suddenly hurt all over...

So you run, they are scary and more powerful then you, when they yell you hurt...

 

[toejam]

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My brother an dad were outside working on putting an electric strand around the top of the fence where since they climbed it. I don't knowexactlywhat happened since I was inside on byc/ hw...

 

[FireTigeris]

Go to the rangers of the fedral/state land and ask for help...

maybe haveahart traps with dog food?

Ones big enough for coyotes?

 

[ranchhand]

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The problem is, if they don't know why they are being shocked, it won't do any good at all. It is one thing to give a shock when your dog growels at your livestock, and another if you just willy nilly give it a shock for running off while it thinks it is playing.

That's true. Another truth is that you do not get a dog, no matter what age or how many, and after half a day at your house, turn it/them loose. Also true is that a shock collar is a last resort technique, best used by a professional trainer.

Two young dogs, in a completely strange environment, not time spent getting them used to the new environment and no time to figure out they are safe and at a new home, have already been shocked................... uhm, I'd be out of there too, and it wouldn't take an animal trail to make me run.

With new dogs, especially immature ones, a slow and gradual introduction to the people and the environment is necessary. Not an option. It takes TIME to build trust and respect, not a zap with a shock collar. They need one on one leash time to begin adjusting. Then you move to training alone, on a leash for several months. Eventually, you can try them out together, but each must have a solid base of training individually before attempting it.

Mods, come get me, because this OP and the brother are not fit to own dogs until they learn that dogs are not to be adopted willy-nilly and immediately subjected to electroshock. Frankly, I hope the dogs get lucky and someone finds them, removes the collars asap and never informs the OP.

 

[toejam]

And to top allof this off, the tags are on our table. I guess my dad ran out of time.( I was on a bus toa basketballgame when he got them andit didn't cross my mind) this can't be any worse....

 

[Katy]

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The problem is, if they don't know why they are being shocked, it won't do any good at all. It is one thing to give a shock when your dog growels at your livestock, and another if you just willy nilly give it a shock for running off while it thinks it is playing.

That's true. Another truth is that you do not get a dog, no matter what age or how many, and after half a day at your house, turn it/them loose. Also true is that a shock collar is a last resort technique, best used by a professional trainer.

Two young dogs, in a completely strange environment, not time spent getting them used to the new environment and no time to figure out they are safe and at a new home, have already been shocked................... uhm, I'd be out of there too, and it wouldn't take an animal trail to make me run.

With new dogs, especially immature ones, a slow and gradual introduction to the people and the environment is necessary. Not an option. It takes TIME to build trust and respect, not a zap with a shock collar. They need one on one leash time to begin adjusting. Then you move to training alone, on a leash for several months. Eventually, you can try them out together, but each must have a solid base of training individually before attempting it.

Mods, come get me, because this OP and the brother are not fit to own dogs until they learn that dogs are not to be adopted willy-nilly and immediately subjected to electroshock. Frankly, I hope the dogs get lucky and someone finds them, removes the collars asap and never informs the OP.

 

[toejam]

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The problem is, if they don't know why they are being shocked, it won't do any good at all. It is one thing to give a shock when your dog growels at your livestock, and another if you just willy nilly give it a shock for running off while it thinks it is playing.

That's true. Another truth is that you do not get a dog, no matter what age or how many, and after half a day at your house, turn it/them loose. Also true is that a shock collar is a last resort technique, best used by a professional trainer.

Two young dogs, in a completely strange environment, not time spent getting them used to the new environment and no time to figure out they are safe and at a new home, have already been shocked................... uhm, I'd be out of there too, and it wouldn't take an animal trail to make me run.

With new dogs, especially immature ones, a slow and gradual introduction to the people and the environment is necessary. Not an option. It takes TIME to build trust and respect, not a zap with a shock collar. They need one on one leash time to begin adjusting. Then you move to training alone, on a leash for several months. Eventually, you can try them out together, but each must have a solid base of training individually before attempting it.

Mods, come get me, because this OP and the brother are not fit to own dogs until they learn that dogs are not to be adopted willy-nilly and immediately subjected to electroshock. Frankly, I hope the dogs get lucky and someone finds them, removes the collars asap and never informs the OP.

I didn't put the collar on. Dad did. I didn't run them. Brother did. So it isn't all my fault.

 

[sourland]

Toejam, I don't think people are blaming you. They are just frustrated by the improper use of these training devices. Common sense must be foremost when dealing with animals. Hopefully they will not be injured.

 

[toejam]

I guess everyone thinks I can't own an animal because my little brother made a mistake... Look, we had a dog, but my dads ex took it after they split. So we aren't cluless. It's been a while since we had a young dog and haven't had one in the country. I am NOT a bad owner. Just made a mistake. But I won't be forgivin for this. O well