I did not mention I hand raised my male...I picked him up at one of my old jobs as a barely feathered squab. He would have been killed if I didnt take him so thats how I ended up with my first pigeon. We bought the female at an auction and I have no idea how she was raised. She is so beautiful and I love her so, but she really seems to disdain me! Maybe because her boyfriend is still in love with me..