Drug test for welfare recipients

[hemet dennis]

That may work in your country but that would never work here.

I do like the idea of no work no eat though for those able to work. And sloth and obesity is not a reason to not work.

It does work here. If you collect social security and get a job you will lose $1 for every $2 or $3 that you make.

I'm beginning to think the biggest problem in this country is it's to comfortable to be poor. No incentive to not be poor.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Quote: Sure about those numbers? SS has a back to work program but it only takes about $250 a month income to be cut off of SS completely... Its closer to losing 2 or 3 for every one... There is a 6 month grace period before it comes in to effect.

 

[aceintoledo]

Why do we need welfare? We got along just fine when it didn't exist, I believe it worked something like this....good people who were down on there luck would get help and support from other people, family, and friends who knew you were a person of good morals, only the lazy, cheaters, liars and losers seemed to not get much help. Sounds to me like the old ways reformed more people into upstanding citizens than welfare ever could.

 

[hemet dennis]

From S.S.web site

A beneficiary reaching full retirement age:

• Can earn $38,880 a year and not lose any benefits in 2012.
• We will deduct $1 for every $3 earned above $38,880.

 

[hemet dennis]

This one is for S.S.I.

This is how we would figure how much SSI you are owed (assuming you have no other income or work expenses), if you received $500 in wages for March 2012:

1. $500.00 gross wages minus $85 equals $415.00.
2. $415.00 divided by 2 equals $207.50. Therefore, $207.50 is the amount of countable earnings we will deduct from your SSI benefit.
3. In 2012, the maximum federal SSI benefit is $698.00 per month. We then subtract $207.50 from $698.00 equals $490.50.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

This one is for S.S.I.

This is how we would figure how much SSI you are owed (assuming you have no other income or work expenses), if you received $500 in wages for March 2012:

1. $500.00 gross wages minus $85 equals $415.00.
2. $415.00 divided by 2 equals $207.50. Therefore, $207.50 is the amount of countable earnings we will deduct from your SSI benefit.
3. In 2012, the maximum federal SSI benefit is $698.00 per month. We then subtract $207.50 from $698.00 equals $490.50.

Interesting... Has changed a in 10 years then... Use to be the other way around...

 

[hemet dennis]

Sure about those numbers? SS has a back to work program but it only takes about $250 a month income to be cut off of SS completely... Its closer to losing 2 or 3 for every one... There is a 6 month grace period before it comes in to effect.

This part of the problem with people believing something and repeating it as facts.
It's been this way for many years.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Quote:
It was in fact that way 10 years ago when I was in it. Its not something I believed.

 

[hemet dennis]

Interesting... Has changed a in 10 years then... Use to be the other way around...

I remember it being this way back in the 1970's. There was a large hardware store in Long Beach when i was a kid and they hired a lot of seniors but they would come and go and then come back at the first of the year. when I asked my dad about it he explained it to me that if they worked to much it was not worth it to them.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

<--- X walmart associate.

They at one time payed company's to hire the disabled. Walmart was known for hiring them an only working them part time. They get payed by the government an work them just enough to be above the limit. After expenses the disabled person was practically starving. Walmart was getting free labor an the government claimed one less person on disability even though there output for that person was the same.