dubbing henry this weekend and i have some ?'s... W/PICS!!!...

[NYREDS]

The ABA and APA have been debating for a long time about the issue of dubbing. There is now a natural class and a dubbed class at most shows and around here it is not nescessary to dub and so I do not dub.

I'm not aware of any movement within the APA or the ABA to do away with dubbing. I'm also unaware of any "natural classes" as part of any sanctioned show.

For OEG's and OEGB's dubbing arose many years ago when the birds were used as fighting cocks. the comb and wattles were removed to prevent blood loss during the fight. When these birds were first seen they were dubbed and so it became a common practice to dub the birds and thus became the standard

Old English Game Bantams are purely a fanciers breed. They were never used for fighting.​

 

[rilly10]

I just wanted to say good for you for asking the proper way to dub! In this breed it has to be done to show and at least someone is trying to find out a best practices way to do it. Clearly the OP cares about his birds and their well being if they are posting to learn more about the best way to do this in the least stressfull manor possible.

If you have a dog thats dew claws are removed, ears are cropped, tails are docked, or a cat that is declawed those are all MUCH more painful even with an anesthetic. Other than having ears cropped all of the procedures I listed are common and well accepted and those all entail severing and removing BONES!

I am not saying I would love to dub birds, but that is why I don't show OEGBs! If I know a thread is going to offend me I DON'T CLICK ON IT! I am not trying to put down people who are opposed to dubbing, I don't want to have to do it myself, but no need to put down, or make it seem like they do not care as much about their birds than we do. There are many people who love OEGBs and would like to show them and breed them to the standard and better/preserve the breed just like any other breed.

I guess what I am really trying to say is THANK YOU for asking about the best, easiest, least stressfull, and most pain free way to go about this! Good luck with your rooster, and I hope he goes on to be a great showbird and heals quickly (which I am sure he will). Also give him some treats when it is all done! A tasty snack always makes me feel better!

 

[can you hear me now?]

I say the OP is very responsible in asking better practices as well to help on high parts. I know of some people that cut off tails of pigs as well so they dont eat them when loaded to go to a sale barn. Sounds crappy but he is doing them a favor. Well the ABA and APA say it has to be done so be it. I congratulate you on wanting to keep this particular breed alive and thriving.

 

[rilly10]

I am glad I am not alone on this!

 

[NYREDS]

I suppose another option would be to show them undubbed & have them disqualified but why would you want to do that?

 

[kstaven]

This topic has been closed once for cleaning. People need to remember that informational posts are just that. In regards to the rules of the forum all agree to upon joining I would highly recommend all choose to take a live and let live attitude here, considering the procedure IS part of showing and at this point not illegal. Also note this post is in an appropriate section for such discussions to take place.

 

[gumbii]

thanks you guys... i failed at getting pics of henry today, i'll do it tomorrow... but he's happy, eating, and drinking water fine... he's still in the purple cage, and i took him outside where the hens were free ranging... he still danced around like Elijah Woods in happy feet... LOL...


i also want to thank the mod for cleaning up my thread... it turned into a train wreck...

 

[PhoenixFeatherFarms]

Soo glad this thread didn't get closed for good. Does anyone have any good videos of how to dub? We tried You Tube but only found one and you couldn't really see where they were cutting well. My hubby tired dubbing his first but I think he took too much from his waddles and ear lobes as it looked like he skinned him and it's all one cut look.. If that makes sense. The bird is fine and has been doing great was up and pecking around for food and was eating and drinking right after he was done but just didn't look right. His comb looks good tho

 

[ddroland]

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OEGs must be dubbed for show, if they are not they will be disqualified. It's also a matter of opinion but the dubbed appearance is considered more aesthetically pleasing. I have several OEGs that I will dub when the are the appropriate age. I have done it already on my Bantam OEG, and I'm sure it hurts when you are doing it, but as soon as I put them down they started chasing hens so they seemed to get over it pretty quick. The only stipulation I have heard is that you should dub at night so the bird remains calm and not active, and that you should do it in colder weather as the blood is thicker and will reduce bleeding.

 

[ddroland]

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Dubbing too young will effect the growth of your roosters, it should be done when they are full grown. Some dub intentionally when they are young to keep them small.