Dumbest Things People Have Said About Your Chickens/Eggs/Meat

[7 Biddies]

the fruit produced has the DNA of the new, grafted plant, not that of the sapling that's been grafted. It actually changes the DNA of the tree to that of the other tree that was "implanted" in it.
That was what I took away from Botany of Desire

There are also some that speculate the organ transplantee takes on certain aspects of the organ donor. It hasn't been proven scientifically yet, it is just a theory.

Oh, so you already knew the answer. Like I said, I was trying to reason it out, so I didn't look it up. However, I'm surprised that there is transfer of DNA to the fruit. How does that happen ... at a cellular level? That's tough to wrap my brain around, since DNA doesn't usually work that way. Does it totally alter the offspring? So, does that mean the fruit isn't always desirable to reproduce? What about the trees they graft to grow several different types of apples on the same tree ... what happens to the fruit of the original tree?

 

[subhanalah]

Oh, so you already knew the answer. Like I said, I was trying to reason it out, so I didn't look it up. However, I'm surprised that there is transfer of DNA to the fruit. How does that happen ... at a cellular level? That's tough to wrap my brain around, since DNA doesn't usually work that way. Does it totally alter the offspring? So, does that mean the fruit isn't always desirable to reproduce? What about the trees they graft to grow several different types of apples on the same tree ... what happens to the fruit of the original tree?

I see what you are saying. On the branches that haven't been grafted, you still get offspring from the original tree.
I wasn't familiar with grafting many different types of fruit to the same tree. They didn't talk about that! And if I hadn't asked you, I never would have had the information to know what question to ask to find more information I didn't know I didn't know.

 

[subhanalah]

Speaking of which...When someone gets...say...A skin graft from another person...does the skin that regenerates from that base tissue have the DNA of the donor skin or that of the recipient of the graft?

 

[7 Biddies]

I see what you are saying. On the branches that haven't been grafted, you still get offspring from the original tree.
I wasn't familiar with grafting many different types of fruit to the same tree. They didn't talk about that! And if I hadn't asked you, I never would have had the information to know what question to ask to find more information I didn't know I didn't know.

Ok. Found this:

Exchange of Genetic Material Between Cells in Plant Tissue Grafts - Stegemann and Bock, Science 2009

Quoting from the article:

Although the grafted tissues fuse and establish vascular connections, the stock (the lower part of the graft) and scion (the upper part, usually supplying solely aerial parts to the graft) are thought not to exchange their genetic materials. But grafting (whether natural or assisted) provides a path for horizontal gene transfer. Gene transfer is confined to the graft site and no long-distance transfer may occur. Analyzes indicating that large DNA pieces or even entire plastid genomes are transferred. Only plastid genes may be transferred, no transfer of nuclear genes occur. Plant cells are connected via plasmatic bridges called plasmodesmata, but the passage of large macromolecules requires the action of specific plasmodesmata-widening proteins. Whether large DNA pieces or even entire organelles can travel through plasmodesmata requires further investigation.

Finally, although our data demonstrate the exchange of genetic material between grafted plants, they do not lend support to the tenet of Lysenkoism that “graft hybridization” would be analogous to sexual hybridization. Instead, our finding that gene transfer is restricted to the contact zone between scion and stock indicates that the changes can become heritable only via lateral shoot formation from the graft site. However, there is some reported evidence for heritable alterations induced by grafting and, in light of our findings, these cases certainly warrant detailed molecular investigation.​

From what I found, plant grafting is entirely different from human transplantation which isn't surprising because the biology of the 2 organisms are entirely different.

As far as the multiple fruit trees, I've seen them in many of the plant catalogues I get in the mail. Here's just one example:

http://www.groworganic.com/multi-grafted-constant-harvest-apple-semi-dwarf-no-1-size.html

As for this part of your post:

"if I hadn't asked you, I never would have had the information to know what question to ask to find more information I didn't know I didn't know."

Say whut?? On that note, I'm going nigh-night.

 

[pattyhen]

I took one of my sebright hens into feeders supply with me.. The man behind me said thats a rooster isn't it? I said no she's a hen. Then he said it's a baby isn't it? I said no she's full grown. Then he said i bet she lives in the house doesn't she? I said no she lives in a chicken coop. He didn't ask anymore questions..

Pattyhen

 

[subhanalah]

From what I found, plant grafting is entirely different from human transplantation which isn't surprising because the biology of the 2 organisms are entirely different.

I guess I was just kind of wondering out loud lol

 

[Hinotori]

Quote:
You can graft closely related fruits onto the same stock. Apples and pears together work. Plums and cherries and if I remember correctly apricots.

 

[Bethel3330]

Your neighbour is right, selective breeding of animals is genetic modification. Evolution by natural selection is modifying plants and animals genetically to give them particular features. Just because it isn't done in a lab doesn't mean it isn't gmo!

The term GMO is used to describe organisms that have dna from a completely different organism artificially inserted into it in a lab. That cannot happen in nature, as we all know. Of course dna is changed through selective breeding etc but it's really apples to oranges here. Plants should not produce their own insecticide and bacterial dna doesn't hop into a plant or animal in nature. GMO, in this context, is COMPLETELY unnatural. The terminology will change later, as it's all about labeling, but the CONCEPT of this particular practice is what those of us buying non-gmo are against.

 

[Bethel3330]

I took one of my sebright hens into feeders supply with me.. The man behind me said thats a rooster isn't it?  I said no she's a hen.  Then he said it's a baby isn't it?  I said no she's full grown.  Then he said i bet she lives in the house doesn't she?  I said no she lives in a chicken coop.  He didn't ask anymore questions..

Pattyhen

THAT is HILARIOUS!
Why did he assume she lived in the house? Because you had her with you?

I don't know anyone with house chickens, but as amusing as they are I could see why. Lol

 

[Bethel3330]

Oh, so you already knew the answer. Like I said, I was trying to reason it out, so I didn't look it up. However, I'm surprised that there is transfer of DNA to the fruit. How does that happen ... at a cellular level? That's tough to wrap my brain around, since DNA doesn't usually work that way. Does it totally alter the offspring? So, does that mean the fruit isn't always desirable to reproduce? What about the trees they graft to grow several different types of apples on the same tree ... what happens to the fruit of the original tree?

I don't know about fruit, but I can tell you from experience that a grafted rose can die and a new one can grow from the root stock. I had that happen once and the new plant is way better than the one I had. It's the healthiest of all my roses and blooms like crazy. Yes, a completely different type