Early crow collar?

[JacksonPearce]

I am not currently zoned for roosters, though I get away with a serama rooster because he has such a tiny crow. I have a spitzhauben boy I badly want to keep (he's my favorite from his hatch!), but I suspect his crow will be too loud. He's just starting to try to crow, and I wonder if putting a crow collar on him early will keep him from ever learning to really belt out. Does anyone have experience with this? I'm not a huge fan of crow collars, but I want to keep the neighbors happy!

 

[SueT]

I have a Spitzhauben cockerel (4 months old) and his crow is LOUD. You'll have to let us know how it works out.....
Do you have others? Have you visited the Spitzhauben thread?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/spitzhaubens.164012/

 

[Lazy Farmer]

I am not currently zoned for roosters, though I get away with a serama rooster because he has such a tiny crow. I have a spitzhauben boy I badly want to keep (he's my favorite from his hatch!), but I suspect his crow will be too loud. He's just starting to try to crow, and I wonder if putting a crow collar on him early will keep him from ever learning to really belt out. Does anyone have experience with this? I'm not a huge fan of crow collars, but I want to keep the neighbors happy!

I suggest if you are not zoned for Cockerels/Roosters, rehome him. Roosters are meant to crow. Collars are cruel.
Your zoning ordinance was implemented to keep your neighbors happy.

 

[JacksonPearce]

I suggest if you are not zoned for Cockerels/Roosters, rehome him. Roosters are meant to crow. Collars are cruel.
Your zoning ordinance was implemented to keep your neighbors happy.View attachment 1419335

Well, to be fair, dogs are meant to breed— but we neuter them all the same, and hens are meant to hatch eggs— but we collect and eat them, and then take measures to break a broody from following her natural instincts. If I feel he or my neighbors are unhappy, I’ll certainly rehome him, but if there’s another solution I’d like to explore it. I don't personally find collars to be cruel at all-- I've used them before on rescue roosters while waiting to find them a home, and they seem irritated by collars at worst and, more often, totally unaware of them. This is my opinion though, and I know others feel and do differently when it comes to their flocks.

To be clear, though-- my question was if putting the collar on NOW, before he begins to truly crow, might help him begin to train his muscles differently so his crow isn't as loud or impactful later on. I noticed with those rescue roosters that often they continued to crow quietly for a bit after taking the collar off out of muscle memory, so I'm most curious to know if anyone has tried collaring a younger rooster with this goal in mind.

 

[JacksonPearce]

I have a Spitzhauben cockerel (4 months old) and his crow is LOUD. You'll have to let us know how it works out.....
Do you have others? Have you visited the Spitzhauben thread?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/spitzhaubens.164012/

I do— I have two girls! I haven’t visited the thread, but am fairly familiar with the breed from elsewhere. I’ll let you know!

 

[SueT]

I do— I have two girls! I haven’t visited the thread!

I hope you'll put their pics on the Spitzhauben thread!

 

[Lazy Farmer]

Well, to be fair, dogs are meant to breed— but we neuter them all the same, and hens are meant to hatch eggs— but we collect and eat them, and then take measures to break a broody from following her natural instincts. If I feel he or my neighbors are unhappy, I’ll certainly rehome him, but if there’s another solution I’d like to explore it. I don't personally find collars to be cruel at all-- I've used them before on rescue roosters while waiting to find them a home, and they seem irritated by collars at worst and, more often, totally unaware of them. This is my opinion though, and I know others feel and do differently when it comes to their flocks.

To be clear, though-- my question was if putting the collar on NOW, before he begins to truly crow, might help him begin to train his muscles differently so his crow isn't as loud or impactful later on. I noticed with those rescue roosters that often they continued to crow quietly for a bit after taking the collar off out of muscle memory, so I'm most curious to know if anyone has tried collaring a younger rooster with this goal in mind.

[QUOTE="JacksonPearce, post: 20063754, member: 441605"]I am not currently zoned for roosters[/QUOTE]
My response was actually about your choice to ignore your local laws and zoning regulations. You clearly stated and published that you are not allowed to have roosters in your zone, but intend to ignore an ordinance.
I tend to follow all laws and regulations.

 

[Pork Pie]

I'd doubt that there would be any conditioning value by starting to use a collar early. You also have to be super vigilant with the collar fitting, as the cockerel grows.

 

[Kessel23]

x2 Farmer Connie!

 

[4 Georgia Hens]

[QUOTE="JacksonPearce, post: 20063754, member: 441605"]I am not currently zoned for roosters

My response was actually about your choice to ignore your local laws and zoning regulations. You clearly stated and published that you are not allowed to have roosters in your zone, but intend to ignore an ordinance.
I tend to follow all laws and regulations.[/QUOTE]
@JacksonPearce The bible says “Your sin will find you out”. Eventually, one of your neighbors will realize that you are illegally keeping 2 roosters. I don’t want to sound mean, but if you want to save yourself a boatload of trouble, rehome the sweet guy. Do you have a friend that can legally keep him?
I do agree with @Farmer Connie in that crow collars are cruel.
Good luck!