Ebay eggs hatching (murans that are light silver??? Deformed bcm hunchback and different size too

[Jazzchick]

I did not think the bcm would make it... layed there a looooooooooooong time and had trouble holding up his swollen neck but it is doing better.. but one of his feet look swollen and bigger than the other.... He was a big chick can not believe he came out of that egg.. I also have two real light light silver murans... suppose to be blue cuckoo but idk.... have not seen chicks that color before..

Read everything on the sexing none of my black copper murans have any white on their heads at all.... ???? so idk what they could be... posting pix incase someone would like to give a good guess..... they are super sweet and want to be held....

hoping the big goofy guy does not have a disease..

 

[animallover505]

they are cute! You hatched them from ebay eggs?

 

[Jazzchick]

This big chick has a big lump on the back of his neck.... super swollen.... has gone down a bit since hatch but he has a harder time holding it up still and his tootsies are odd.... take a look...
what do you make of that... ???? i

 

[Jazzchick]

This big chick has a big lump on the back of his neck.... super swollen.... has gone down a bit since hatch but he has a harder time holding it up still and his tootsies are odd.... take a look...
what do you make of that... ???? i

 

[Jazzchick]

This big chick has a big lump on the back of his neck.... super swollen.... has gone down a bit since hatch but he has a harder time holding it up still and his tootsies are odd.... take a look...
what do you make of that... ???? i

 

[animallover505]

this may help

Diagnostic Aid

The diagnostic aid section is to help you find out what might be wrong with your bird

1. Write down all the Symptoms you have noticed
2. Then come here look up theSymptom and Possible Cause
3. Don’t look at oneSymptom and assume that the Possible Causeis the answer, it is a combination of many Symptoms leading to the most likely cause of the problem

This section is not finished
I will be putting links to each Possible Cause so you can go and see all the information in one section
As it is now you will have to write down the Possible Cause then go to Disease/ Illnesses & Afflictions to see all the details about that particular problem, but before you do this check all the Symptoms being displayed by your bird to find the most likely possibility

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Abdomen

Symptom - Possible Cause

black patches on abdomen -Necrotic Dermatitis & Gangrenous Dermatitis

distended abdomen -Omphalitis

enlarged abdomen -Lymphoid Leukosis

protruding abdomen -Infectious Stunting Syndrome


Appetite

Symptom - Possible Cause

decreased appetite -Paratyphoid

drop in feed and water consumption -Infectious
Coryza

frequent visits to feed or water -Stress

hanging around feeders and waters -Infectious Synovitis


Back

Symptom Possible Cause

Arched back -Kinky Back


Bacterial Infections

Symptom Possible Cause

Bacterial Infections-

A number of bacterial infections can lead to damage of the eye. Salmonella bacteria, particularly Salmonella typhimurium and Salmonella Arizona, are known to cause severe purulent conjunctivitis and ophthalmitis (inflammation of the eyeball and conjunctiva with pus) and blindness. Often young birds acquire the infections from the hen or through navel or yolk sac infections.


Beak

Symptom Possible Cause

Beak -Nutritional deciciencies - vitamin D or calcium-phosphorus

Beak -Unbalanced

Beak -Chemical injury

beak soft, rubbery -Rickets

beak trimmed- If the bird has had its beak trimmed, check for proper healing, overgrowth of the lower beak or over-trimming (cut too short)

bloody mucus -Infectious Laryngotracheitis

broken beak -Beak clipping

cannibalism -Beak clipping

crusts at margin -Nutritional deficiency - pantothenic acid or biotin

crusty lesions around mouth -Dermatitis and scabby or crusty lesions around the mouth and eyes suggest vitamin B deficiency

crusty lesions around mouth -Pox also occurs in turkey, pigeions, doves, canaries and othe birds

difficulty swallowing -Botulism

discharge from mouth -Canker

discharge from mouth -Cholera (acute

easily bendable beak -Rickets

frequent swallowing -Canker

injured beak -Beak clipping

mocous discharge from mouth -Cholera (acute)

pustules -Nutritional deficiency - vitamin A

sores in mouth -Fusariotoxicosis

sores in mouth -Canker

sores in mouth -Roup (nutritional)

Ulcers -Mycotoxins

What to look for- Discharge, Bubbling, Smell, Lesions, Growths

white coat over tongue and in mouth -Wet form of Fowl Pox

white plaque - white plaque in the the mouth, esophageus, or crop may be caused byCapillaria worms,yeast infection(candidiasis moniliasis), or possibleyTrichomoniasisorVitamin A deficiency, but most oftenFowl Pox (wet form)

white plaque - White plaque beside the tongue in the mouth are common in hens and turkey breeds, may be caused byMycotoxinsor low humidity

white plaque -Vomitoxinmay produce similar lesions in young chicks and turkeys

whitish or yellow sores in mouth -Canker

whitish yellow mouth -Roup (nutritional)


Behaviour

Symptom Possible Cause

changes in normal behaviour or activity patterns -Stress

loss of aggressive behaviour -Cholera (chronic)


Body

Symptom - Possible Cause

collapse -Algae PoisoningorPoisoning

coma -Botulism

coma -Marek's Disease

convulsions -Algae Poisoning

convulsions -Aspergillosis (acute)

convulsions -ErgotismorPoisoning

convulsions -SpirochetosisandTreatment with Tylan

dehydration -Paratyphoid

doesn't dust bath -Stress

droopiness -Arizonosis

droopiness -Blackhead

droopiness -Coccidiosis (cecal)

droopiness -Coccidiosis (intestinal

droopiness -Influenza

droopiness -Leucocytozoonosis

droopiness -Pasted Vent

droopiness -Roup (nutritional)

droopiness -Control of Intestinal Spirochaete Infections in Chickens / Spirochetosis

drowsiness -Histomoniasis, Enterohepatitis / Blackhead / Blackhead

drowsiness -Botulism

drowsiness -Cholera (acute)

faulty body conformation -Osteopetrosis

fever -Influenza

fever -Spirochetosis

fever -Straphylococci c Arthritis

fever -Streptococcosi s

full of fluid -Emphysema / Marfan Syndrome

heat stress -Aflatoxicosis

hunched up posture with head pulled in and eyes closed -Ulcerative Enteritis

increased broodiness -Influenza

increased intervals between clutches -Roup (nutritional)

listlessness -Colibacillosis

listlessness -Ergotism

listlessness -Erysipelas

listlessness -Newcastle Disease (exotic)

listlessness -Ulcerative Enteritis

looks scruffy -Stress

loss of interest in perching -Spirochetosis

lying on back -Algae Poisoning

lying on side -Botulism

muscular tremors -Newcastle Disease (exotic)

nervous disorder -Newcastle Disease

nervous disorder -Newcastle Disease (exotic)

prostration -Infectious Bursal Disease

prostration -Necrotic Dermatitis

sleepiness -Aspergillosis (acute)

sleepiness -Pullorum

sleepiness -Typhoid

sometimes nervous Symptoms -Swollen Head Syndrome

stressed birds -Toxoplasmosis

unthriftiness -Campylobacteri osis

unthriftiness -Infectious Laryngotracheitis

weakness -Aflatoxicosis

weakness -Algae Poisoning

weakness -Arizonosis

weakness -Blackhead

weakness -Cage Fatigue

weakness -Canker

weakness -Chalmydiosis

weakness -Leucocytozoono sis

weakness -Lymphoid Leukosis

weakness -Newcastle Disease (exotic)

weakness -Paratyphoid

weakness -Pullorum

weakness -Roup (nutritional)

weakness -Typhoid

wounds - aggressive mating, head and eyes may be swollen also, feathers missing off the top of the head, wounds from spurs may be evident, feathers missing from back


Bones

Symptom Possible Cause

easily broken bones -Rickets

warm leg bone -Osteopetrosis

Breast

Symptom Possible Cause

black patches on breast -Necrotic Dermatitis

breast greenish/blue -Exudative Diathesis

breast blisters -Infectious Synovitis

breast blisters -Breast blister

degeneration of breast -White Muscle Disease

shrunken breast muscles -Tuberculosis

sunken breast -Canker

thin breast -Coccidiosis (intestinal


Breathing

Symptom Possible Cause

breathing difficulties -Air Sac Disease

breathing difficulties -Cholera (chronic

breathing difficulties -Erysipelas

breathing difficulties -Erysipelas

breathing difficulties -Infectious Laryngotracheitis

breathing difficulties -Infectious Laryngotracheitis

breathing through mouth -Infectious Laryngotracheitis

breathing through mouth -Infectious Laryngotracheitis

difficulties to breath -Newcastle Disease (exotic)

extended neck to breath -Cryptosporidio sis

extending neck to breath -Infectious Laryngotracheitis

laboured breathing -Stress

wheezing -Newcastle Disease


Bruising

Symptom Possible Cause

bruising -Aflatoxicosis

Chest

Symptom Possible Cause

blister on chest -Breast Blister


Chicks

Symptom Possible Cause

chirping -Newcastle Disease

chirping - cold, wet, hungry or scared, could bePullorumorNewcastle Disease

chirping sound -Newcastle Disease (exotic)

chirping sound -Newcastle Disease (exotic)

chirping sound -Paratyphoid

circling -Dactylariosis

dead embryos at time of hatching -Paratyphoid

death with 1 to 2 days -Pseudomonas

embryro death -Pseudomonas

new chicks feel wet -Omphalitis

newly hatched chicks - die -Pseudomonas

odd sizes - chicks -Omphalitis

peeping sound -Paratyphoid

pipped, but dead embryos -Paratyphoid

poor livability of chicks -Epidemic Tremor

shrill peeping or chirping while trying to expel droppings - Pullorum

unabsorbed yolk sac -Omphalitis

unpipped, dead embryos -Paratyphoid


Choking

Symptom Possible Cause

choking -Infectious Laryngotracheitis

Circling

Symptom Possible Cause

circling -Dactylariosis


Cloacal Bursa

Symptom Possible Cause

enlarged cloacal bursa -Lymphoid Leukosis


Comb

Symptom Possible Cause

black/gray scabs on comb -Pox (dry)

bluish comb -Aspergillosis (chronic)

bluish comb -Cholera (acute)

bluish comb -Ergotism

bluish comb -Infectious Synovitis

bluish comb -Lymphoid Leukosis

bluish hot comb -Cholera (chronic)

bumps on comb - clear or whitish -Pox (dry)

cold comb -Ergotism

crust on comb -Favus

darkened comb -Influenza

Eruptions, nodules -Fowl Pox

flour dusted comb -Favus

grayish white patches on comb -Favus

honeycomb head / comb -Favus

mottled, red and white margins -Frozen

pale (sometimes bluish) combs-Tuberculosis

pale comb -Fatty Liver Syndrome

pale comb -Infectious Anemia

pale comb -Infectious Synovitis

pale comb -Roup (nutritional)

pale comb -Streptococcosi s

pale or purplish comb -Spirochetosis

pale shriveled comb -Lymphoid Leukosis

pale shriveled comb -Pullorum

pale shriveled comb -Toxoplasmosis

purplish comb -Paratyphoid

reddish brown lumps on comb -Pox (dry)

scabs falling off leaving scars - comb -Pox (dry)

scabs on comb -Pox (dry)

Scabs on comb -Fowl Pox, causes scabs on the comb, eyelids, and wattles, but must be differentiated from injury

scaly comb -Favus

scaly shrunken comb -Campylobacteri osis

shriveled comb -Ergotism

shrunken comb -Infectious Synovitis

smelly comb -Favus

swollen comb -Fatty Liver Syndrome

swollen comb -Influenza

thick comb -Favus

White, scaly, powdery -Favus

wilted comb -Ergotism

yellow lumps on comb -Pox (dry)

Crop

Symptom Possible Cause

crop filled with seed and roughage -Crop Impaction

distended crop -Crop Impaction

distended sour crop -Thrush

fowl smelling crop -Crop Impaction

full crop/death -Colibacillosis

hard crop -Crop Impaction

vomiting -Leucocytozoono sis

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[Jazzchick]

That is awesome... thanks..... and yes I hatched them from eggs I bought off ebay... Jean/wade/presley lines, I wanted nice murans.. and wanted to experiment hatching some eggies.....
Hopefully the other eggs due to hatch this weekend do well too..

 

[animallover505]

did they all hatch?

 

[Jazzchick]

No, they did not all hatch.... but was surprised how many extra's the breeders sent, in some cases... doube. I paid about 20 to 23 dollars for 3 separate auctions of marans. one breeders chicks did not hatch at all or yet and of the other two I got 8 murans and 3 blue white crested polish.

one auction was for 4 polish eggs but she sent many more... the blue maran and two silver murans? are from her too... she had a good hatch rate with her eggies...

I need help identifying the really light ones.... there eggs were marked blcm bl cuckoo maran.... are they blue cuckoo females?

 

[Jazzchick]

None of the diagnostic info says anything about big lumpy swollen necks... like a crop on the back of his neck... or a foot that is swollen up like that...
Although his neck looks alot better today I could hardly tell who he was.... aside from his size..