EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: How kind do you let it sit, what do you use to make it ferment, do you feed it all the time or just occasionally? That's all I can think of right now but there is probably more.
I ferment their feed
You can ferment anything that have carbohydrates in it= any type of grains, bred, potatoes ect.
The fermentation is a metabolic process that take place in an aneoronic= without oxygen environment
The fermentation can be made by Fungi = yeasts, and this fermentation produce Ethanol =Ethanol fermentation (THIS ONE YOU DON'T WANT IN YOUR CHICKEN FEED!)
The second type of fermentation is made by different types of Bacteria and one of the important is the Lactic fermentation, made by the genus Lactobacillus THIS IS THE TYPE THAT YOU WANT!
The benefits of it are tremendous here some :
1. The fermentation take down the levels of phytic acid , it is an antimetabolite that reduces the absorbance of minerals from the feed.
2. It henhance the level of vitamins especially the B complex.
3. The microbes that ferment are basically prebiotic microbes that give a bust to the chickens microflora keeping it healthy.

How yo ferment
1.Take 3 glass jars that can contain 1 day ration of feed and water.
2. Put the feed in the 3 jars cover with cleen water at list 10 cm over the feed, I usually add some bio yogurt or a capsule of human prebiotic, but you don't have to.
3 stear and cover the jar with a cloth
4. Wait at least 3 days stear very day,see if there is bubbles (

)
5 after 3 days give the first jar and replenish it with new feed and water
And so on
You should smell it befor giving it to the birds it should smell like a sour bred, if moldy or have alcoholic smell trow the batch.
And make a new one!
@BantyChooks

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: google that for me so I dont have to use my hands lol

 

[jwlpoultry]

[@=/u/371240/BantyChooks]@BantyChooks[/@], my hatching update.


Turkeys, lavender ameraucanas, silkies, and CCL hatching every week from now till July lol

 

 

Well while I was in TSC this morning I resisted the chicks and ducklings. That is a good thing right?

Shame on you, young man.

I ferment their feed

You can ferment anything that have carbohydrates in it= any type of grains, bred, potatoes ect.

The fermentation is a metabolic process that take place in an aneoronic= without oxygen environment

The fermentation can be made by Fungi = yeasts, and this fermentation produce Ethanol =Ethanol fermentation (THIS ONE YOU DON'T WANT IN YOUR CHICKEN FEED!)

The second type of fermentation is made by different types of Bacteria and one of the important is the Lactic fermentation, made by the genus Lactobacillus THIS IS THE TYPE THAT YOU WANT!

The benefits of it are tremendous here some :

1. The fermentation take down the levels of phytic acid , it is an antimetabolite that reduces the absorbance of minerals from the feed.

2. It henhance the level of vitamins especially the B complex.

3. The microbes that ferment are basically prebiotic microbes that give a bust to the chickens microflora keeping it healthy.


How yo ferment

1.Take 3 glass jars that can contain 1 day ration of feed and water.

2. Put the feed in the 3 jars cover with cleen water at list 10 cm over the feed, I usually add some bio yogurt or a capsule of human prebiotic, but you don't have to.

3 stear and cover the jar with a cloth

4. Wait at least 3 days stear very day,see if there is bubbles lol: )

5 after 3 days give the first jar and replenish it with new feed and water

And so on

You should smell it befor giving it to the birds it should smell like a sour bred, if moldy or have alcoholic smell trow the batch.

And make a new one!

Hey!! Lemme out of the jar!!

I'm sorry.

But I am looking at 1 dozen+ Anconas on the 24 hr thread they look amazing and no one has bid and they end tonight.

 

 

I'm sorry.

But I am looking at 1 dozen+ Anconas on the 24 hr thread they look amazing and no one has bid and they end tonight.

No ducks 'til June for moi. Stop tempting me!

Well I was talking about for me not you. But you know I am a pretty good enabler.

You are eating a lot of popcorn Sally!!

And it is awesome to have you back!!!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Banty I have next chicks due to lock on March second, did I tell you that when I was begging for spaggetti and choking on it? omg everyone swears they dont know a thing about saying they would make me spagetts and then I get it and choke on it....



Did you also know that when I came home from the hospital all the chicks were hatched that day, there were two two serama stuck zipping and I made him do the ugly deed because he didnt check my bator the entire time I was in, nor turn the eggs in the other bator, this hatch is gonna hatch just fun I can see already

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: I'm sorry.

But I am looking at 1 dozen+ Anconas on the 24 hr thread they look amazing and no one has bid and they end tonight.

Quote: Well I was talking about for me not you. But you know I am a pretty good enabler.

You are eating a lot of popcorn Sally!!

And it is awesome to have you back!!!

actually if I actually get old and they feed me pills in my applesauce I am going to have many ideas on how to get those youngsters back for forcing that crap down ma throat.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

bed calls

 

[jwlpoultry]

 

 

[@=/u/371240/BantyChooks]@@BantyChooks[/@], my hatching update.



Turkeys, lavender ameraucanas, silkies, and CCL hatching every week from now till July lol

 

 

 

Well while I was in TSC this morning I resisted the chicks and ducklings. That is a good thing right?

Shame on you, young man.

I ferment their feed


You can ferment anything that have carbohydrates in it= any type of grains, bred, potatoes ect.


The fermentation is a metabolic process that take place in an aneoronic= without oxygen environment


The fermentation can be made by Fungi = yeasts, and this fermentation produce Ethanol =Ethanol fermentation (THIS ONE YOU DON'T WANT IN YOUR CHICKEN FEED!)


The second type of fermentation is made by different types of Bacteria and one of the important is the Lactic fermentation, made by the genus Lactobacillus THIS IS THE TYPE THAT YOU WANT!


The benefits of it are tremendous here some :


1. The fermentation take down the levels of phytic acid , it is an antimetabolite that reduces the absorbance of minerals from the feed.


2. It henhance the level of vitamins especially the B complex.


3. The microbes that ferment are basically prebiotic microbes that give a bust to the chickens microflora keeping it healthy.



How yo ferment


1.Take 3 glass jars that can contain 1 day ration of feed and water.


2. Put the feed in the 3 jars cover with cleen water at list 10 cm over the feed, I usually add some bio yogurt or a capsule of human prebiotic, but you don't have to.


3 stear and cover the jar with a cloth


4. Wait at least 3 days stear very day,see if there is bubbles lol: )


5 after 3 days give the first jar and replenish it with new feed and water


And so on


You should smell it befor giving it to the birds it should smell like a sour bred, if moldy or have alcoholic smell trow the batch.


And make a new one!

Hey!! Lemme out of the jar!!

I'm sorry.


But I am looking at 1 dozen+ Anconas on the 24 hr thread they look amazing and no one has bid and they end tonight.

 

 

I'm sorry.


But I am looking at 1 dozen+ Anconas on the 24 hr thread they look amazing and no one has bid and they end tonight.

No ducks 'til June for moi. Stop tempting me!

Well I was talking about for me not you. But you know I am a pretty good enabler.

You are eating a lot of popcorn Sally!!


And it is awesome to have you back!!!

actually if I actually get old and they feed me pills in my applesauce I am going to have many ideas on how to get those youngsters back for forcing that crap down ma throat.

Haha well we are all hoping you get to a good old age we don't know where we would be without our Sunshine!!

 

[kwhites634]

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but it is what it is

Quote: yeppers thank you dax

I have one of those, buried in the downstairs closet, no one has offered to go search and destroy though.

Quote: oh whites tehy been out for very long time

Nvm. I opened the remaining eggs and all of them were dead. Most looked fully developed and one even internally pipped but all dead

oh no!

SALLY!!! So good to see you on line.

Happy slumber time!!!

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MC gave me hall pass!!!

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hello sweetie!

not sure I even wish to google pashminas at the moment

my son went running very upset and crying like a dang baby to his father when he got home from school I told him to come give me a hug and look see what I can do.

I said watch this I can unzip my neck now and held the piece of glue at one end and acted like I started unzipping it, whoda thunk he would be such a freak about it! yeezus, turd boy actually got scared by me!!
Who can blame the boy! I got the heebie jeebies just reading it, and I'm a sight older than he is!

 

[kajira]

Thanks. It's easier because I was expecting it, but still sad.

It would have to be Saturday or Sunday (I have work...). I probably have a cooler you can use if you don't have one. Chickens are a breeze. I'm nervous about the ducks. So we'll start with the chickens so I can demonstrate and get you used to the whole "killing" part before all the stupidness that I'm sure will come with the ducks on my part. (Probably best for kids to stay at home if that's possible...)

Thanks! I think this little fella would have died even if not shipped. His head was shaped sorta funny...

I know the Brinsea info says 45-50% (I have one), but 30-35% is a much better place to start. Humidity is not any magic number, it's just a tool to get the right amount of weight loss in the egg by the time it hatches. In fact, different eggs will lose weight at different rates (color, porosity, size, etc.). If you have a good quality kitchen scale, I would recommend you weighing each egg and tracking weight loss (I have a spreadsheet you can use if you want - the goal is loss of 0.65% weight per day). If you don't want to do that, you'll monitor the size of the air cells by eye. It's usually harder to deal with too LITTLE weight lost than too MUCH weight lost, so it's better to start low, and bump it up if you need to.

So start at 30%, and when you candle at day 7, either weigh or look at air cells. If the size or weight loss is about right, leave it at 30%. If it's too much, up the humidity some. If too little, reduce. (By "increase humidity" - you increase the surface area for the water - sponges are good options.)

On the second post in this thread are a WHOLE lot of links. Take a look and find the ones about humidity - lots of fantastic info there. That's also where you'll find images of expected air cell size. If you want the spreadsheet, let me know. (@BantyChooks , @Article Editor - did that get added to the notes?)

ALSO - your hygrometer (the one built in to the incubator) may not be calibrated. I got a brand new Brinsea Octagon (which I love) - it read 6-10% too high (the temp was also off). ALL incubators must be calibrated. The temperature is more important to calibrate because there's not something you can track (like weight or air cell size) to help you adjust for what you need. For humidity, regardless of what the number says, if you need more weight loss you go down, and less, you go up.

@rasheika

Sally!!!!!!! SO good to see you!!!!!

(That was a gentle virtual hug, of course). Get some good rest!

I suspected that might happen. Do you still want to come up, or have you convinced him to do it there?

See my comments above - 30-35% is just fine, and you'll monitor the air cells (or weight) to get where you need to be. Make sure you're calibrated - if not, watch the weight loss or air cells to tell you where you need to be. DEFINITELY read the stuff at the beginning of this thread. It really helped me a lot when I first started hatching.

@Lucyluvchickens

Ummmmm.... How embarrassing is it that your tub is cleaner than mine, and you have a PIG in it?!?!?!?!?

I think I have more cleaning to do!!!! (Of course, the fact that the brooder was in that bathroom for a couple months might have something to do with that...)

Sleep well, sweetie!

I'm so sorry.

Super!!!!

I LOVE Vernors when I'm sick - amazing stuff. I was a camp counselor in Michigan one summer, so I first learned of it there, but they sell it in our big grocery stores here as well.

- Ant Farm

I'm anal about my tub and sink being clean... the rest of my house, not so much.

For what it's worth, I've also had baby ducks in that tub.

Sat/sun might work, I'll talk to my husband this week and see what we can do - as to leaving the kids behind, that's not an option - but they need to learn too, so they should see how it's done anyways. If I end up butchering a bunch of birds, i'm going to need help down the road, and I know once "we know how" to do it, hubby will end up leaving us to it.

 

[kwhites634]

bed calls

Sleep tight & dream of better days to come