EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[BantyChooks]

Fasnachts on the counter and I cant eat them!!!! OMGGGGG oh well Happy Fasnacht day to my fellow PA dutchers

The worst kind of torture!! Sorry to hear you didn't sleep well

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Lid is done. Might toggle it a bit more later, but it works.

holy big viewing area batman!!! she must be blind as a bat! he he he

Last hatch a few days ago, mix chicks rooster is a Sagitta mother hens were Sagitta, white leghorn or production red. Custom hatch a few Ayami Cemani with them. Had a couple sticky AC guess old and shipped egg issues cause my mixed ones went almost perfect 13 out of 14 none sticky. AC were 4 for 9 and 2 sticky.

sweet!!!!

@Sally Sunshine @BantyChooks @DwayneNLiz @MotorcycleChick


TLDR : Cat had cancer, didn't come home from the vet....

Long, dramatic version below.


I know pets may not always be up there for everyone as a best friend, and not all animals are made equal.

When my horse died a couple weeks ago, it was "sad" but I didn't even cry. I liked her, but I didn't "loveeeee" her like some animals make you feel.
Today, after a week of debating, I scheduled a vet appointment for my cat, that i've had almost the entire time I've been married.

my "cancer" warning bells were going off. His only symptom was losing weight. I'd noticed it a couple weeks ago, but after verifying he was getting his share of the cat food, I decided I needed to take him in just to see if my spider sense was right, or wrong.

We had a very eventful day. He decided to commit cat suicide, he busted out of a dog crate, that was tied down in the back of my car, and jumped out of my truck at 80 miles an hour and faceplanted on the cement. After a near- panic attack, and stopping to get him and putting him in the cab with me, I raced him to the vet, and brought him inside. Only to find out, his suicide attempt not only FAILED, but he barely was injured. A bloody nose, a couple scrapes and bruises, and a black eye. Maybe a mild concussion.

All things consider, he got freaking lucky beyond belief, for trying to kill himself by jumping out of the back of the truck. He's been in cars/trucks/crates before, and has NEVER attempted to get out of one prior to this.

We get there, and a bunch of running around by the vet, on all these expensive tests, and how it could be all these things, and me telling them "disprove he has cancer, I want proof its not cancer." After running all his labs, and then coming back normal, and them finding enlarged lymph nodes, both by his thyroid, AND his belly, I told them, verify that it's not cancer.

More run around, and me telling them I have no intention of taking him home unless they can prove what I think is cancer ISNT cancer... they finally cave and aspirate the lymph nodes. (think 600+ dollars later of testing, 300+ which could have been saved, had they just aspirated the lymph nodes like I wanted to begin with....)

He has large cell cancer. Given his little suicide attempt, and he went from 15lbs to 9lbs in a month, and talking with kids, husband, etc, we decided to say our goodbyes. Buying him weeks, or a couple more months with prednisone, didn't seem the best way to go for him....

So I said goodbye today, to the one cat who only liked me. That I loved, that I knew when I put him in that truck today, I was saying goodbye too. I don't know how to explain how I know "cancer" when I sense it, but I've yet to be wrong when I called "cancer" in an animal... Which is why I told the vet she was upsetting me by not ruling it out as the #1 thing before wasting my time with thyroid tests and other labs. (hundreds of dollars, actually.)

Kids didn't want to see him suffer, or decline and lose more weight, and we didn't know if he had any issues from the fall that would cause him to seizure at home a day or two later, and I couldn't just walk into a room and find him dead. I loved him too much to deal with the trauma it would have put on me, to do that. At least this way, I know he didn't suffer. I know they made sure he didn't feel any pain, and he was able to live a good life with no horrible last 2-3 months of extending his suffering just to not say goodbye to him.
The logical part of me goes "all that money they wasted, could have saved another cat, who was young and needed a home."

The other part of me goes, you needed an answer and you did the right thing to confirm what you already knew so you could come to terms with saying goodbye.

and then, had he NOT decided to attempt caticide, I might have brought him home and forced him to suffer for days, weeks, or months because he "was healthy enough" to give it a shot... but his little faceplant on the cement took that choice away from me logically. I couldn't justify it, because I didn't think he'd be strong enough to deal with everything else on top of that.


I just.... he was a good cat, and 10 isn't old enough

OMG KAJ!!!! good lord!!! I am so sorry you went through all that. goodness woman!! hugs and love to you!! I am so sorry. awwwww

back!

BLOOIEEEEEEE soooooo @Blooie whatcha wanna hatch this time round?

I ended up lining the rim with duct tape, coz everything's better that way....

Pink!!!! go girl go!!!!

 

[BantyChooks]

holy big viewing area batman!!!  she must be blind as a bat!  he he he
sweet!!!! 


Pink!!!!  go girl go!!!!

Naw, I just got so mad at the LG viewing windows that now that I can do whut I want imma making them REAL big! No more smushing my nose against the glass, trying to see into corners. e

I managed to use up the last of the hot pink doing that, now I have to settle for more boring colours for anything else that needs taped. Humph.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Mornin MC

 

[daxigait]

@kajira We all know the loss of a beloved pet and can only offer heartfelt sympathy.

I would have refused to pay for the extra tests if I had specifically told them to eliminate cancer first.

 

[BantyChooks]

OH and ignore my lousy jigsaw job, that thing kicks like a mule and cuts about as straight as a banana... Sigh.

 

[dan26552]

I'm always late to these discussions.
LEDs don't generate any appreciable amount of heat.
That's the beauty of them, why they are so energy efficient, longer lasting and more durable.
They're electronic light emitting diodes. Basically semiconductors that produce visible light but the minimal heat produced is absorbed in a heat sink.
Incandescents produce heat because they produce light by heating a filament that glows white hot. 90% of the energy used is released as heat.
CFLs generate some heat because the energy flows through gasses between electrodes thereby producing UV light and heat.
So the 40watts on a LED package is equivalent light output to an incandescent bulb, not actual energy used.

You could use halogen if you can't find incandescent.
Ceramic heat emitters are more efficient and metallic heat elements are more efficient yet.

But how else would we transport animals across the country so cheaply?

Another good reason not to shop there.

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Turken is the breed.
Or do you mean what variety of Turken is it?

I wish the roosters would get fed up with our dog chasing hens. I don't think they see him as any real threat.

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It would say rough service. Those are usually higher wattages like 75 and 100.

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Not a set number. All eggs are different in their size and porosity so you'll have to play it by ear.
They should lose 0.65% of their weight each day so that's why some need higher humidity and some less.
You can start at about 30-40% and see how the air cell grows. At any rate, you want to get the humidity much higher for the hatch. If the windows fog the humidity is too high.

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The first time I tried to pedigree eggs in the hatcher, I used plastic berry baskets. The little Houdinis ignored that and were all over the place. I mostly use mesh shrimp bags now with a draw string. After I tie the drawstring I add a rubber band.

I ferment too.
I use 5 gallon pickle buckets and just sit the lid on without locking it down.
As I understand it, different bacteria and yeasts have various tolerances for oxygen. Sometimes I start with the feed completely covered with water but not always. I tend to get bubbling by the second day.

The vitamins and minerals in there are helpful but there is only one type of probiotic bacteria.

A couple things I have used are Gro2Max powder and plain Kefir.
Kefir has 12 different probiotic cultures.
Gro2Max has 3 bacteria and 2 yeasts formulated specifically for chickens.
What breed are the dark eggs?

Not local. Local means no shipping - hand carried.

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I have 34 eggs due to hatch in 10 hours. I've been hearing peeping since yesterday morning. @BantyChooks


That's great. Have fun. What islands are you visiting?

My son finally sent me some pics from our trip.



Neither do many native English speakers so don't feel bad.


I had seen it before but wasn't sure how it actually worked till I saw your video. Thanks.

They must use queen excluders below the tapper body. Otherwise there would be the chance of larvae in the extractor body.



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I try to ship eggs that are up to 3 days old.

It's fairly easy to make native pollinator houses. The holes need to be at least 6 inches deep to make females. Shorter holes produce all males.


How do you elevate it as the chicks grow?


I never know exactly how many chickens I have. I have to count each building in my head and then do the math.




The wider the better. If you live in a cold climate, the roosts need to be at least 2" wide but 4" is better.
In freezing weather they have to be able to cover their toes at night. If their toes are uncovered, they get frostbitten.
It is good to round off the edges to thwart bumblefoot.
If the roosts are at different elevations, they need to be separated enough by height or distance that a chicken on a lower roost can't peck at the vent of a bird on a higher roost.
Most birds will try to get as high as possible so those higher on the pecking order will end up on the top roosts.

Nice, good luck.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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mornin chaos, you have your fatness for the day yet?

Quote: not turture, its a big day!! mornin sweets thanks

 

[Chaos18]

mornin chaos, you have your fatness for the day yet?
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No but I did drink a bunch of coffee. How are you this morning?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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OH and ignore my lousy jigsaw job, that thing kicks like a mule and cuts about as straight as a banana... Sigh.

lol silly sweets, it looks fantastic!!!