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Did you know that it is much easier to catch and kill a mink by stomping on its head at 10AM while it is killing a chicken in the field, than it is to shoot one at night or catch one in a trap?
This just happened 20 minutes ago and my heart is still pounding.
I'm so glad I was home. I was just about to leave to have my safety inspection done. The birds are usually safe in the middle of the day when they can see threats.
I heard mayhem and thought it was cockerels chasing pullets but I knew immediately it was a mink because squirrels don't chase chickens.
I didn't have time to grab a weapon. I ran out and he had a cockerel down biting it's neck. He didn't care that 2 other cockerels were attacking it nor that I was running up to the scene. I just stepped on it's chest and then on his head when he started biting my boot, after a couple minutes the cockerel I thought was dead got up and ran away.
Then I rearranged my boot and started stomping on his neck. We had 4" of rain yesterday and overnight so the ground was really soft.
 
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Did you know that it is much easier to catch and kill a mink by stomping on its head at 10AM while it is killing a chicken in the field, than it is to shoot one at night or catch one in a trap?
This just happened 20 minutes ago and my heart is still pounding.
I'm so glad I was home. I was just about to leave to have my safety inspection done. The birds are usually safe in the middle of the day when they can see threats.
I heard mayhem and thought it was cockerels chasing pullets but I knew immediately it was a mink because squirrels don't chase chickens.
I didn't have time to grab a weapon. I ran out and he had a cockerel down biting it's neck. He didn't care that 2 other cockerels were attacking it. I just stepped on it's chest and then on when he started biting my boot, after a couple minutes the cockerel I thought was dead got up and ran away.
Then I rearranged my boot and started stomping on his neck. We had 4" of rain yesterday and overnight so the ground was really soft.


Yikes!!! I'm glad you went out there to investigate.
 
Did you know that it is much easier to catch and kill a mink by stomping on its head at 10AM while it is killing a chicken in the field, than it is to shoot one at night or catch one in a trap?
This just happened 20 minutes ago and my heart is still pounding.
I'm so glad I was home. I was just about to leave to have my safety inspection done. The birds are usually safe in the middle of the day when they can see threats.
I heard mayhem and thought it was cockerels chasing pullets but I knew immediately it was a mink because squirrels don't chase chickens.
I didn't have time to grab a weapon. I ran out and he had a cockerel down biting it's neck. He didn't care that 2 other cockerels were attacking it. I just stepped on it's chest and then on his head when he started biting my boot, after a couple minutes the cockerel I thought was dead got up and ran away.
Then I rearranged my boot and started stomping on his neck. We had 4" of rain yesterday and overnight so the ground was really soft.
I'm glad it's dead.
 
Yikes!!! I'm glad you went out there to investigate.
I heard a bunch of squawking one afternoon and went to investigate. On the way down the back steps, a hen ran past the house headed for the road like she was shot out of a cannon. There were 2 coyotes chasing chickens. They killed a chick and took a rooster with them that had given himself up to save the others.
The chick was of the hen that ran past the house. She had sent all her other chicks into cover so they were safe.
 
One of my goats has diarrhea. The inside of their coop is coated. Baby Beaux is green spotted from horn to hoof to tail, which leads me to think it's Roxie. Or he got caught in his own backsplash?

Either way, how much should I be panicking right now...?
 
One of my goats has diarrhea. The inside of their coop is coated. Baby Beaux is green spotted from horn to hoof to tail, which leads me to think it's Roxie. Or he got caught in his own backsplash?

Either way, how much should I be panicking right now...?
Read this - rule things out, and if you have a vet you can call, call them.


DIARRHEA:
A Symptom of a Problem, Not the Problem Itself. Sometimes Diarrhea is Desirable
Diarrhea is not an illness but rather a symptom of other more serious health problems in goats. Before treating a goat for diarrhea, determine why the animal is scouring. Diarrhea-controlling medication can make the situation much worse. Diarrhea the consistency of pudding or even watery stool is sometimes the body's way of purging itself of toxicity. If the feces is slightly soft, I let it run its course while keeping the goat hydrated with electrolytes and monitoring its rectal temperature. When body temperature is above the normal range of 101.5 to 103.5 degrees F., I use a fever medication (vet script: Banamine injection) and an antibiotic (vet script:: SMZ-TMP tablets) to control infection while hydrating the goat with electrolytes. Very watery diarrhea requires more intervention. For purposes of this article, my definition of "diarrhea" is anything other than perfectly formed goat pills in young kids and adults and baby poop in newborns and very young goats that are not yet eating solid food.
There are four major causative agents of diarrhea in goats: bacteria, viruses, parasites, and management practices (i.e., overcrowding, poor sanitation, or nutritionally-induced problems such as overfeeding).
Diarrhea can be the symptom of many different illnesses, including bloat, ruminal acidosis, laminitis/founder, copper deficiency, aflatoxin poisoning, anaphylactic shock, plant toxicity/poisoning, renal failure, selenium toxicity, coccidiosis, enterotoxemia (clostridium perfringens type C&D), salmonellosis, E. Coli, caprine herpes virus, heavy parasite infestation, and goat polio. Take a fecal sample and run a fecal examination before (or, if time constrained, concurrent with) starting treatment. See my website's article on how to do your own fecals (www.tennesseemeatgoats.com).
Diarrhea is not always the result of an infectious disease. It can be nutritionally induced by overfeeding on milk or grain, by using poor-quality milk replacers, or by sudden changes in feeding schedules or in the type of feed, hay, or forage/browse being offered.
Neonatal Diarrhea Complex, which is the term used to describe diarrhea occuring in kids under one month of age, the cause of which may not ever be diagnosed, usually occurs during kidding season when extremes of weather take place . . . . excessive heat or cold or heavy rains. Kids less than one month of age do not have functioning immune systems. Dehydration, acidosis, electrolyte depletion, and hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) can result. The kid becomes weak and can't stand, has a dry mouth and cold extremities, body temperature drops below normal, and the suck response may be lost.
Sick kids should be isolated from the herd (preferably remaining with their dams if circumstances will allow it because all goats dislike being alone), placed in sanitary facilities, and fed from containers that are well above ground level to prevent further contamination. Administration of oral and sub-cutaneous electrolytes along with an appropriate broad-spectrum antibiotic (liquid Sulfamethoxazole with Trimethprim: vet script) is my treatment protocol. My preferred oral electrolyte product is either Bounce Back or ReSorb. I don't use any product that has either psyllium or clay as an ingredient. I use Lactated Ringers Solution (vet prescription) for subcutaneous rehydration in goats into which I have decided I should not add to their stomach contents. There are articles on the Articles page at www.tennesseemeatgoats.com that detail which products I use and under which circumstances. The laxative Milk of Magnesia is used to induce mild diarrhea in toxic situations so that the goat's digestive system can be stimulated to rid its body of the substance that is making it sick. Laxatives are dehydrating, so the goat must be kept hydrated with electrolytes.
Coccidia and/or worms are often the cause of diarrhea in kids over one month of age. Both of these conditions are transmitted by fecal-to-oral contact and occur most often in heavily managed situations where pens and troughs are not kept clean and dry and where overcrowding exists. Accurate diagnosis of worm or coccidia oocyst infestation is possible only by doing a microscopic fecal count.
Overfeeding on grain (sacked feed, shell or cracked corn, formulas concocted by the goat raiser or colleagues) or quick changes in feed, hay, or forage/browse can cause severe ruminal acidosis, shutting down the goat's digestive system, and can result in death. Heavy parasite loads can cause diarrhea in adult goats. Almost anything which negatively affects the proper functioning of the goat's rumen can cause scouring. NEVER feed sweet feed/horse and mule feed/textured feed/ sileage/haylage/baleage (no moisture-laden alfalfa-based products like ChaffHaye at my ranch) to goats. Any feed that is molasses based can mold and cause serious illnesses like Listeriosis.
When you see diarrhea in one of your goats, do not run for a bottle of Pepto-Bismol, Kaeopectate, or Scour Halt. First figure out what is causing the scouring, then treat appropriately. Use a rectal thermometer to take the goat's body temperature. Do a microscopic examination of the feces. Check the goat for dehydration. I have never found the skin-pinch test to be helpful in determining dehydration. It doesn't take much of a reduction of water in the rumen to change the pH from alkaline to acidic that results in a very sick goat. If the conditions are right to convince me that dehydration is a real possibility, I will use Bounce Back or ReSorb and orally drench the goat if it won't drink on its own. I will administer sterile Lactated Ringers Solution electrolytes under the skin (sub-cutaneously) if the goat is seriously dehydrated and body temperature is sub-normal. Never put fluids into a cold stomach.
Coccidia-induced diarrhea is best treated with oral doses of Albon or its generic equivalent Sulfadimethoxine 12.5% (now vet script). How I use this product is described in my article on Coccidiosis. Neomycin sulfate, marketed under the name Biosol, is a current over-the-counter product that will likely be script only before the year is out. CoRid (amprollium) is still available over the counter, but you must use Vitamin B1 (thiamine) injections along with CoRid because it is a thiamine inhibitor. See my article on Coccidiosis on my website's Articles page at http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com.
Gastroenteritis, usually caused by E. Coli or other similar bacteria, should be medicated with SMZ-TMP tablets in adults and SMZ-TMP liquid in kids.
Never use Immodium AD to control diarrhea in a goat. This product can stop the peristaltic action of the gut, bringing the digestive process to a halt, and death can be the result.
Recognize diarrhea as a symptom of a more serious health problem and investigate to find the cause before running for scour halt medications. Sometimes, but not always, diarrhea is helpful in clearing up what is wrong with the goat and supportive care may be all that is needed.
Suzanne W. Gasparotto, Onion Creek Ranch, Texas 8/2/16
 
One of my goats has diarrhea. The inside of their coop is coated. Baby Beaux is green spotted from horn to hoof to tail, which leads me to think it's Roxie. Or he got caught in his own backsplash?

Either way, how much should I be panicking right now...?

we mixed "Sure Gel" (a gelatin used for jelly making) with a calves milk to stop diarrhea in our bottle calves, panic now !!
 
I heard a bunch of squawking one afternoon and went to investigate. On the way down the back steps, a hen ran past the house headed for the road like she was shot out of a cannon. There were 2 coyotes chasing chickens. They killed a chick and took a rooster with them that had given himself up to save the others.
The chick was of the hen that ran past the house. She had sent all her other chicks into cover so they were safe.


When I had chickens... I would go outside and hear the coyotes howl all night. They had a den just across the street from the school that lined out back yard. I knew my coop wasn't coyote proof but we got lucky and never had an incident there. It was super nerve wracking. We have a guard dog. Wasn't sure if that is why they never payed attention to our birds.
 
I have a miele, and am dreading the day when it breaks down for good. They don't make vacuums as good as this one anymore.

Never heard of it.

I use a Dyson right now. I use to buy bissel but I would keep having to replace them. I have not used that kind though. I know on my Dyson the hair still gets wrapped and I have to cut it out.

I considered one. It's the number three choice atm.

I had one of those and it was great for a while. Keep it clean or it will smell awful. DH bought me a shark something ... Tornado maybe? It's smaller and I like it better. Way easier to clean and unclog, also.

Shark is my number two choice.
How do you mean clean?

I've broken every vacuum cleaner I own.

You know what I invested in? Hardwood floors and a shop vac. It's really hard to break a shop vac. O.o

:lol: I have only a few carpets still. I'm tired of using my shop vac. Especially since I have only one good extension cord. It's so long, it causes its own problems.

I love my Shark Rotator Professional Lift-Away.  It is easy to clean and it does a great job with all the animal hair in my house (6 cats, 3 dogs, plus mine and my girl's super curly hair that ends up everywhere!). 

Do you cut the hair out?


Did you know that it is much easier to catch and kill a mink by stomping on its head at 10AM while it is killing a chicken in the field, than it is to shoot one at night or catch one in a trap?
This just happened 20 minutes ago and my heart is still pounding.
I'm so glad I was home. I was just about to leave to have my safety inspection done. The birds are usually safe in the middle of the day when they can see threats.
I heard mayhem and thought it was cockerels chasing pullets but I knew immediately it was a mink because squirrels don't chase chickens.
I didn't have time to grab a weapon. I ran out and he had a cockerel down biting it's neck. He didn't care that 2 other cockerels were attacking it. I just stepped on it's chest and then on his head when he started biting my boot, after a couple minutes the cockerel I thought was dead got up and ran away.
Then I rearranged my boot and started stomping on his neck. We had 4" of rain yesterday and overnight so the ground was really soft.

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