EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[hippiestink]

@Cynthia12, congratulations on the new grandboy and God Bless you for being your daughter's advocate.

@kajira, congratulations! Here is wishing you an evenetless pregnancy and a trouble free labor and delivery with a healthy baby!

As for home deliveries and midwifes...I was an OB nurse for 5 years. The only thing I have against midwives is situations like Cynthia12 found herself in with her daughter. I have seen way too many normal labors go south with mom on the delivery table (back then it was delivery room, labor room, post partem room/nursery) and baby's heart rate decelerating to a dangerous level Momma is exhausted because the baby is large and suddenly you are racing to set up a C-section and getting a surgical team in STAT! in order to save the baby. Or a baby born with fecal contaminated amniotic fluid (a sign of a hard labor where the contractions put excessive presure on the baby)that needs extra monitoring and possible antibiotics to protect it from infection.

Granted 90% of the deliveries are non problematic and babies will literally deliver themselves with only mild intervention from midwife/OBGYN but it's the 10% that truly worry me along with the attitude of midwife's like the one Cynthia dealt with that believe their way is the only way.

The Amish all for the most part use midwives. I have heard of women being taken to the hospital to deliver when paroblems crop up. The lady next door used a midwife for the delivery of #13. (I told her not to sneeze until the midwife got there) and didn't have any problems.

For the most part, midwives are well trained, compassionate and dedicated. And I know many hospitals are overhauling their OB units to make them more family friendly and putting the comfort of the woman high on the list. But personally, although I do not have children, I would prefer to deliver in a hospital where I know that any emergency contengency could be dealt with swiftly to insure the survival of both my child and myself.

But it's a matter of personal preference and as long as mom and baby are safe, go for it. But never be afraid to speak up like Cynthia did.

God Bless that beautiful little boy with a long and prosperous life.

That's really all it comes down to, is just being firm and speaking up. Husband was more comfortable with me in a hospital and I just like the peace of mind.

 

[room onthebroom]

Wow! Cynthia that is a crazy story!!! On top of it all, falling down the stairs is just horrible & like something you'd see in a movie. I'm glad it all worked out ok & hope you heal quickily!

Wicked, I LOVE the new avy & the hand art!!! Spoooooooky!!!

 

[kajira]

Yes! Dismissive of
EView attachment 1158549 xactly! This Midwife was way too Hands-On. Literally. She even stripped her membrane when she was at a 9. Like I said, they had moved, so a new midlife. Anyway here is a photo of our little guy all snuggled up in a blankie.

Ugh, my midwife was so eager to leave with #2, she didn't think I was in labor, hubby had to convince her to stay. LOL I would probably punch someone who touched me like that in labor. With my induction with #1, my doctor wouldn't stop touching me down there, I asked her nicely, 2x, to remove her hand from my vagina, and she replied "How can you feel it, we gave you an epidural" (It wore off though) and I told her if she didn't get her hands off me, my foot would connect with her face. LOL

I am NOT the nicest person in the middle of labor and I do not like strangers touching me in my most intimate parts, especially when it's not needed. I hated that, they forced me to push a baby out sunnyside up. :/ They wouldn't let me off my back or out of the bed to rotate him.

I know a lot more now and I don't take "no" as an option when my body is telling me something anymore.

@Cynthia12, congratulations! I'm glad she was able to finally give birth safely! Hope your wrist and knee heal quickly!



X2!

My Dr was terrible too but I did like the midwives that delivered my babies. We specifically chose a hospital that was 45 minutes away because they were known to have a really good maternity ward and they really were wonderful. My issues with my dr came with my hysterectomy. That was 6 years ago and I have not been back for any kind of checkup since. I've been traumatized!

I would have felt better, having my first vbac under supervision given the medical risk of rupture, but my fear of hospitals made me wait to long to go in because of interventions potentially causing issues that were a higher risk than the rupture rate that's one problem with understanding how studies and science works. My risk of rupture was a lot lower, than a 30%+ chance of a forced c-section would have been. For failing to meet some protocol or guideline, and they'd already told me at that paticular hospital, I wouldn't be allowed out of bed, and from previous experience, I knew I'd be fighting in labor and refusing to follow protocols because I walk when I labor, there is ZERO chance of me getting NEAR a bed of any sort in labor. Unless it's my idea to take a nap. LOL

What'd I miss??? What'd I miss??? Did kajira have her baby already??

Nope, i'm only 21 weeks on friday, I got a ways to go

 

[Lazy Farmer]

Do you happen to have a photo of a dux in a trash can?

 

[BullChick]

Wow! My duck diaper is so much simpler!

 

[duluthralphie]

The first dux inline is my favorite dux of all time!

 

[Akrnaf2]

If you were around for Duckling's birth, you'd understand.

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[Akrnaf2]

guh!! I'm glad she's okay - and I'm so sorry the midwife did that! I cannot believe she'd behave that way. But, I guess it takes all kind. We accidentally delivered the baby on our own, and I think things progressed so smoothly was because I labored by myself and just listened to my body. Labor never hurt, I didn't even know I was in active labor and about to have a baby until about 15 minutes before she was born, then it was too late to move me, she was coming out! LOL



In the USA - Hospitals are notorious for unneeded medical interventions and even causing complications that wouldn't otherwise happen in natural, low intervention births in healthy women.

Case in point. I was induced with #1, and it almost killed me.
#2 was a homebirth with a midwife, zero complications.
Doctor screwed shit up, #3 was a forced c-section, that led to an early birth of my twins, and one died in the hospital at 3 weeks old.
#4 was an accidental out of hospital birth with zero complications because I wouldn't let people touch me. lol
This pregnancy, is going well, my doctor is completely hands off - but when and if I go into the hospital this time - even if *she's* hands off, the hospital has all these protocols for IV's and other interventions that are required the minute I step foot on ground. I can't just labor, how I want, with the occasional monitoring as needed, being mostly left to my own devices.

The USA is not the most "Labor" friendly place to give birth.

Checking the patients for progress, isn't even a good idea, because every vaginal check introduces bacteria, increasing infection risks to mom/baby. And, not all mom dilate the same way.
I would get labled failure to progress with their dilation of 1cm per hour rule. I do all my dilating in the last 45 minutes. So i'd either get "sent home" under the guise of not being in labor and give birth in the car or at home, or I'd get them wanting to push pitocin or other interventions on me because I don't present traditional labor symptoms. I also don't feel pain the way most women do - I don't have labor pains until the last hour of birth and it's over fast for me. If they aren't ready, I'm catching the baby. LOL



^^^ What she said. Even the hourly checks for progress aren't recommended anymore. It can stall labor. Low intervention births means, no fingers in the vagina! Mom's body will progress, and it doesn't have a set pattern. Whoever decided that women give birth by X week, and in X pattern, didn't apparently see enough labors to realize that while that may seem common, it's actually not as likely to work just like that, too.

That's when things go down hill, when hospitals base labor policies on trying to free up beds with in 24 hours of admittance to L and D floors.

It really astonish me every time to see how little I know about you!
Here it is totally different! We have Birth preparation courses in hospitals in wich you get ALL THE INFORMATION about what is haed of you, here we encouraging having children. .....

 

[Wickedchicken6]

I have never been so happy to read a post of yours.......

 

[kwhites634]

Ours won't take vbac patients - if you come in, even if you've HAD a previous vbac with no complications, they'll force you into the OR, per hospital policy.

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