EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[Lazy Farmer]

Just a couple more.. I promise.. Done now..

 

[Lazy Farmer]

Last entry.. Pig Farmer's log, stardate 2017/October 15 @v 2:14am..
14 offspring. 8 gilts 6 boars. Mother sow as tired as I. Calling it a day. All fully canopied from the Owls and nutridrench and electrolytes drenched mother.
Time to abandon aid and hope natural selection fairs in our favor.

 

[kwhites634]

we breed nigerian pigmy goats... they are in a competitive enviroment,, worse than my grammer..

GrammAr I know....it's spelling, but who's keeping track?

 

[kwhites634]

Last entry.. Pig Farmer's log, stardate 2017/October 15 @v 2:14am..
14 offspring. 8 gilts 6 boars. Mother sow as tired as I. Calling it a day. All fully canopied from the Owls and nutridrench and electrolytes drenched mother.
Time to abandon aid and hope natural selection fairs in our favor.

Didn't know pigs backed into the world.

 

[mlm Mike]

Yes, production should be of high importance when breeding to standard.

I don't believe production is considered at all.

wanna see sum placenta covered bacon babies? hub cap has sum pics that will make you want to avoid bacon for a couple weeks... I think her tubes are empty.. the last one was shrink wrapped as always... poke, tear and teet time.... Hang on untill the card is read, good stuff..

Ready and Rolling! Uglybator hatch #7 is off to a great start!!

ps-ignore the digital in the corner, it's just there to tell me the days highs and lows.

Couldn't see pic.

GrammAr I know....it's spelling, but who's keeping track?

Banti.

 

[BantyChooks]

leghorns=#@@$%%%$#$%%%

Leghorns = .
Seriously, even though they have massive combs, I really like them. High production of strong eggs for years, even temperaments, range wary, they have the "lights on" in their heads. Quick to tame, quick to un-tame---gotta keep handling them. At least they aren't as pushy as the sexlinks.
I don't want to be tripping over birds when I walk through the yard. Easy to handle birds are appreciated but not ones 3" from my feet.

Last entry.. Pig Farmer's log, stardate 2017/October 15 @v 2:14am..
14 offspring. 8 gilts 6 boars. Mother sow as tired as I. Calling it a day. All fully canopied from the Owls and nutridrench and electrolytes drenched mother.
Time to abandon aid and hope natural selection fairs in our favor.

Congratulations!

Really? I've always been fed the line they produce less eggs, but produce more over time, a production bird will do great for 2 years then need replacing, while a show quality bird will last maybe 5 years. My experience with SOP birds were low production, with weird shaped eggs. Since there is no method of checking, I don't believe they take it in the equation of winning shows.

For winning, no, but the SOP clearly states that these birds must be bred for production, that doing so would be the only way to save purebreds. Some birds are for egg production, some for meat, some for both and therefore a bit lower at each, but they should all be satisfactory---even bantams. My Sultans from a breeder gave me an egg every day right up until molt.

I think that often at shows traits directly relating to production or evidence of production is overlooked, sadly, but a good breeder will take egg and meat production into account and keep his birds balanced. Can't make more winners without lots of them eggies.

Banti.

Correct.

 

[BantyChooks]

I heard the 'lorp rooster wheel off an alarm at about 11:30 last night, and I looked out the window and saw something circling his pen. Want to guess what it was?

I let the dog out for a bit and went back to sleep---nothing's getting in that coop except a bear.

 

[mlm Mike]

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For winning, no, but the SOP clearly states that these birds must be bred for production, that doing so would be the only way to save purebreds. Some birds are for egg production, some for meat, some for both and therefore a bit lower at each, but they should all be satisfactory---even bantams. My Sultans from a breeder gave me an egg every day right up until molt.

I think that often at shows traits directly relating to production or evidence of production is overlooked, sadly, but a good breeder will take egg and meat production into account and keep his birds balanced. Can't make more winners without lots of them eggies.


Correct.

It doesn't matter what the SOP says, the SOP also has size ranges for birds, birds over sized are consistently winning, hence birds will be breed to be over sized. If it isn't a judged and measurable trait it will be lost over time.

 

[BantyChooks]

It doesn't matter what the SOP says, the SOP also has size ranges for birds, birds over sized are consistently winning, hence birds will be breed to be over sized. If it isn't a judged and measurable trait it will be lost over time.

Which is why responsible breeders NEED to take it into account. Judging has changed over the years, I believe.

If they are placing birds more than 20% over size limit you can complain to the APA about it, because that is a clearly stated DQ.

 

[mlm Mike]

Which is why responsible breeders NEED to take it into account. Judging has changed over the years, I believe.

If they are placing birds more than 20% over size limit you can complain to the APA about it, because that is a clearly stated DQ.

I don't believe most people are capable of breeding to standard without the feed back you receive from experts and showing. The show winners are what are considered closest to the standard, so if they are allowing birds a mere 19% above standard to win, the birds will get bigger.