EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[kajira]

AWESOME!!! thank you Liz!!! @BantyChooks you got these I guess? I wont ask anymore I know your on top of them lol


Was this chick hatched with bare back?

awwwwww pony!!! and widdle baby girl!!! I will have both, keep the duck though lol

@gimmie birdies I hope the others got out!!! UPDATE? Congrats Beautiful!!!!


holy WOW he is huge, never trapped any that big!!! how round was his middle?? garsh!!!!

Here I am BYC wouldnt run right frustrated then it rained, then I well, was doing other things. How are you Mr. Educator?

Wasn't hatched completely bare-backed, but spikey - and the high temps make sense. My son nearly nuked every bird in the incubator by playing with the temp thing when I was gone that one day... so if high temps cause it, then that explains it.
I lost 3/4ths of the eggs a couple days after that happened.

I think 5 hatching alive, and fairly healthy was lucky after temps were at nearly 105 for almost all day.

 

[ocap]

Sorry, my hair was covering up the screen. What did you say?

should I use a larger type or would you still have trouble?

 

[BantyChooks]

And you complain about the sun room!

Sun room is nuttin' compared to moi coop!

**** straight, if either of those things bit me, i'd probably end up in the ER. Wolf spiders here have venom - won't kill you, but hurt like the dickens... and the scorpions? My husband got bit by one a few months ago, he's now traumatized by them. His arm felt like he got stung by 1000 bees, and his tongue went numb for a few hours... and these are non-deadly ones.

He smashed it with a freaking shoe and the thing still tried to attack him. ;o 

<<Note to self- TX is the land of lava, spiders, and scorpions. Stay FAR, FAR AWAY.>>

Good morning MC!!

The effects of setting eggs small end up
https://www.pasreform.com/academy/f...the-effects-of-setting-eggs-small-end-up.html

@BantyChooks
   can you put that in your notes to add somewhere please?  not sure where though, we get this question fairly often when ppl panic and realize they set upsidedown.

Morning Sunshine, you've been missed!!

 

[kajira]

should I use a larger type or would you still have trouble?

Not big enough. Go big or go home.

 

[LittleLakePhil]

@chicken hawk 33


I gave you a great opportunity to get started into a rare breed.  After I offered to give you those Ayam Cemani eggs, at my expense, I was advised that you make a habit of taking advantage of people.  But I made the offer, so I sent you the eggs.  I since asked you to not bother me again.  But you continue to fill my in-box, and you continue to post on various threads.

Since you want to discuss things here, lets do that.

Let's discuss that you didn't even know what this breed was before accepting the eggs. 
Let's discuss how you were more interested in ascertaining the value of the eggs instead of taking a few minutes to provide shipping information.
Let's discuss that you seemed to be only interested in using your opportunity to make money.
Let's discuss why you won't stop messaging me.
Let's discuss why I'm not answering your PMs fast enough.
Let's discuss why you wouldn't look for the many pictures of my birds I had already posted on BYC instead of asking me to PM them to you.
Let's discuss why you won't do any of your own research on the breed, to answer your own questions?

But you want answers here about feathered legs?  ok!

Ayam Cemani are a work in progress.  It is not a finished breed.  In fact, some would argue it's not a breed at all.  Many consider it a land race, and as such, things crop up from time to time.  Even in the oldest of breeds from the best of breeders, not all chicks make the cut.  I have not kept exact records, but I estimate that I keep about 3% to 5% of my chicks as potential future breeders.  Approximately 25% or more get culled at hatch due to either white on the toes or white wing tips.  The rest are offered for sale locally.  I have noticed that some unsold chicks turn out better than the ones I initially selected to keep.  You just can't be sure what you're going to end up with based on an assessment as chicks.  Let me repeat - You cannot know how they will grow out until they are all grown out and mature.  I would grow them all out if I could. 

I cannot tell you why you have a chick with feathered legs. I do not understand the genetics for feathered legs.  Yes, I did see a few chicks this year with that undesirable trait.  I'm trying to get rid of it.  I have checked all my breeders for it, and I cull every chick that shows it.  I do not keep feathered legs in my breeding flock.  Yet it crops up from time to time. 

I have made great improvements in my Ayam Cemani flocks, but I am nowhere near the finish line.  I did not represent that I was.  I only offered to give some lucky persons an opportunity to get involved with the breed.  Why?  Because I am positive there are some people who would love the opportunity, and can do great work to improve the breed, but due to current circumstances just can't invest much money to get that start.  I'm also positive some people would just love to add a really cool breed to their mixed flock but cannot justify the cost.  And I also don't believe in gouging people.  Just because someone can ask for a premium for what they sell doesn't mean they should.

I feel bad that you not only got a chick with excessive white on the toes, but that you also got one with some feathering on it's shanks. However, you also got two other chicks that could very well mature into nice specimens.  Only time will tell.

There are some Ayam Cemani threads on BYC.  You are welcome to join them, read them, ask questions, get pointers, etc.

Cj I'm sorry you had to go through this.... Lesson learned i guess.
Unfortunately I saw it coming.
The Ayam Cemani eggs I got from you arived in excellent condition. I got a 100% hatch rate and am totally pleased.
You have been one of the kindest people I've met on BYC (it's a big crowd of kind people though) and certainly didn't belong getting treated that way.
I'm sorry that you did...... Phil

 

[ocap]

Not big enough. Go big or go home.

having trouble coming up with lyrics for "go big or go home" is that a university fight song ??

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Oh.... Forgot to post updated pics of @Sally Sunshine 's babies. Enya is on the left; Abi on the right.

'Scuse the filthy coop, they decided to pose for pics in the very grossest corner...

are they laying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kajira

I buy stock tanks and they just live in the house. I put a fire place grill over the top to keep them from flying out once they are older.

the only thing that bugs me, is with ducks, I clean 3-4x as much as I do with baby chicks

The box they came out of is to the left, big lawnmower box...

They have so much room now. I need to get the pellet bedding now heh...already shavings galore, which I knew when I finished making the frame, but my back was killing me and Chicks of all ages were crying, so just wanted to finish


It was nice enough to let them enjoy outside...

Finley it came!
Old

New!


Now I can feel like!

oh NO!!! you should have burned it not gotten a replacement!! rest is for the very young, old and unhealthy

Hi everyone. With regards to surrogacy/adoption, will I be able to place ducklings with a mother and 4 older ducklings (a week old). I have had issues with my ducks sitting on eggs of various ages so they are at various stages of development. I want my last sitting female to hatch all her eggs but there are 4 that are much closer to hatch ( in a day or 3) than the others. I want to set those 4 ducklings in with the duck already raising babies. Will this be possible? I know my chickens tend to be bullies to younger newer chicks and so was wondering if this was the same for muscovies?

Depends if she will accept them. let us know how it works out please! and welcome!! @Romario

morning. I had to wake up and kill both a scorpion and a wolf spider that was in with my brooders on the floor... (okay, the wuss in me had my husband do it.)

gross!!!!

He is still refusing to wear them. I can get him to average about 15 minutes a day so far. LOL so.... we go back to the eye doctor in december. I warned her when she insisted he needed glasses that it was going to be a battle, and I'm currently losing. Anyone who tried to FORCE a toddler to keep something on their head that they don't want... well, they didn't have a normal toddler.



Also - I get to start testing on Halloween... if you know what I mean?

dang kids!!

and yes I do know what you mean lol

 

[kwhites634]

Quote: Yeah. Hope to get started tomorrow; trying to finish up another job

 

[LittleLakePhil]

I've only been to Texas a few times, and it was always hot as heck.

Heck Southern Michigan is too hot for me.... But i think I'd like the politics in Texas..... After all they are a Republic not a state.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

for Mr. EDUCATOR

The biology behind egg turning

https://www.pasreform.com/academy/f...tion/1279-the-biology-behind-egg-turning.html