EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

What if my eggs were still on the rotating shelf till day 19???
I've had that happen. Not to worry.

Im curious: has anyone hatched eggs after day18 with a heat lamp?? Since they need to be still I thought it might be possible to put them in a rubber mate with a heat lamp over it at the right temperature and to keep the humidity up with a wet rag and try hatching that way??
It can happen but a heat lamp isn't a good idea. It is too much heat and an infrared heat lamp heats what it is aimed at rather than surrounding air so unless it is just a couple eggs, there will be hot and cool spots and hatching potential will be diminished. Just a 40 or 60 watt incandescent or halogen lamp will be sufficient depending on the container.
The last couple days, wider temperature swings are more tolerated by the embryo.
If you can be between 98 and 101, your biggest concern is keeping the humidity up to prevent shrink wrapping.

No problem.

I can't say that I have done it, but it is very possible. Check the temp to be sure you aren't frying them, and add wet sponges very close by to be sure that there is enough humidity.
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Congrats on another!

Well, there are several things I would worry about. Yes, one is the water, but I have a thing that you microwave that was in a cat bed, that will keep a small waterer thawed all day, He would also be by himself trying to stay warm in either my small broody/jr coop which would be small, or my big green coop that has a couple of spots in the top of the runs hardware cloth due to a couple of goats thinking they should jump up and lay on hardware cloth four feet in the air
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Lastly, I am not sure about keeping me separate enough while dealing with the dark, the cold, and separate clothes.

Despite all that, I am really tempted.
If you can keep liquid water on him and have a predator proof space where he can stretch his legs a bit, he can deal with it for the month or so quarantine. It isn't likely to get cold enough by January to bother a single rooster.
I sometimes have these guys in a small breeder apartment by themselves or with a hen at night through the winter months with huge open windows at roost height.
This is my third year being NPIP (which doesn't mean much since it only a test for PT)
I've had two roosters and tow hens die in the 6 years I've been breeding them. Both roosters had heart attacks. One hen was egg bound and the other had cancer. About 3 years ago, I had to treat one flock with tetracycline because of clostridial bacteria in the digestive tract. Those are the only issues I've had with these birds in those 6 years other than with nighttime predators. So, disease hasn't been a problem.
I have a mature rooster about 18-20 months that I'm not keeping because about 30% of my young birds are out of him. He's a good flock protector.
I'll have to know by tomorrow evening so I can pick a good bird for you.
Read below and I'll tempt you some more.


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liquid water at 10:00 am
I need to break solid water before that
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Weather report this morning said it was 34 at the airport but a sheet of ice on everything here this morning.

Well, the dates are set, the deposit is in place for the Grand Tetons, my airline tickets are purchased and the car reserved. Now if I could just decide what for sure what exactly I want to see and where I want to hike the six days I will be in Yellowstone. It is so hard to narrow it down. There is so much to see.
I am still hoping to find someone to join me for the days in Yellowstone since all they would have to do is get there and have their hiking stuff. I already have the car and will have my campsite selected and applied for this month. It is definitely getting more real. I think half the excitement of a vacation is in the plans.
I still have a few things I need to buy and I wish I could afford a GPS or one of the fancy multi-function watches. Oh well, I do need to learn how to use a compass and maps much better before I leave. I know how to use a road map but I don't know how to use the trail maps like I need to.
So besides getting a nice but, what are you up to?
Are you familiar with topographic maps?
They show elevation with contour lines, water features, buildings.
https://www.usgs.gov/products/maps/topo-maps
There are 3 arrows pointing north. Grid north, true north and magnetic north. The three vary depending on where you are. The angle between the three will be dramatically different if you are in Alaska, Finland or Texas.
The first 2 don't really matter to you since you aren't heading to one of the poles. The magnetic field near the Arctic isn't exactly at the north pole (true north). Grid north aligns with grid lines associated with latitude and longitude. You just lay your compass on the map and turn the map so the needle aligns with magnetic north on the map. Look at the elevation lines and other landmarks on the map (buildings, lakes, streams, etc.)
If you're facing north and there is a peak to your right, it should be indicated by elevation to the east of your position on the map.
It's a challenge if you're blindfolded and dropped in an unknown location. But, you will know from where you're starting off so work from there.
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/resources/maps-and-geographic-resources/finding-north.html


The big solar eclipse is happening while I am on the pack trip. The best viewing arch goes right over the Tetons. I am still trying to figure out the camera part.

My biggest regret about the trip is that my pretty boy Corsario (see avatar) didn't live to make the trip. He was the finest horse I have ever owned, and he still holds my heart.
Sounds great! Hopefully clear skies.
I've been to 3 active volcanoes in CR. They are often cloud covered so not much to see. Two, Irazu and Poas, I was able to go right to the rim. Each time the park rangers said it wasn't worth going to the rim because of the weather. I said I wanted to go anyway. Each time, when I got to the rim, the clouds broke up and I got to see the fumaroles and bubbling.
The Arenal volcano is the only one with pyroclastic flows and going onto the mountain isn't possible but clearly visible from surrounding mountains. During the day I could see the lava flows but at night clouds would cover the cone so the spectacular flows weren't visible.

I would love to get that information. I am still trying to find someone I know who has both the interest and the money/health. I put off going to Europe when I was young enough to do the hostels because I could not find anyone to save the money to go then. This time I am not waiting.
Have you looked at local meetup groups of people that love to hike, ride and climb?
We have several women's meetups around here of like minded people.

Shalom!
Azimuth???
Basically just a NSEW direction on the map.

You can print out TOPO maps online.
http://www.mytopo.com/search.cfm

Shalom Shalom
Yes it is an Angel of some identified topographic item relatively to the north.
It helps you to know your actual position in reality relatively to the map.
This is the best explanation I can give! In English.
Can you rent a satellite phone for your trip to Yellowstone?
Good explanation.
I was military intelligence (I know that is an oxymoron) for an artillery group headquarters.
I ran the map room for the whole group. When battalions were headed to the field, I'd supply the maps they needed.
One of the first books I had as a kid was an old world atlas and I constantly poured over those maps.
So when the map room was one of my jobs I loved it.
I had topographic maps in scales from 1:25,000, 1:50,000, 1:100,000 and 1,250,000 of most of Europe. By combining them, I could construct a map of any scale and any size for anywhere we needed to conduct exercises.
Then, on maneuvers, I would have to assess the enemy situation by compiling data on incoming fire our troops took and draw back azimuths to determine a line along which was the source of the fire. We had manuals on enemy weaponry so I knew the range of each type of round. When 3 lines intersected, that was a confirmed target.

guess no one talks to chicken hawk
People don't talk to me after a day or two either. You have to say something interesting, stimulating or ask a well formulated question to get feedback.

After almost 7 month WE FINALLY have rain!
That's the problem the SE US has had. Extreme drought conditions. And fires.

Yes, thank you. I just need some practical experience before I go. I am going to try to get an experienced hiker to teach me that and other basics hands on.
That and the trail marking system they use in Yellowstone. I know it is spread out.
Ok, I'll bring a topo map and compass of the area where we meet to exchange the rooster this weekend and I'll show you all you need.
Do you have a compass? My brother lives in Sarcoxie. We're only going to be there from Saturday morning to Sunday afternoon.


Dec 1st already
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Wasn't it just April? And for that matter, how is it 2016 already?
I agree.

lol, so long as she has a good head on her shoulders i dont care how she dresses

lol, she does love her pinks and purples but also, trucks, harleys, guns and camo

yes theyre very beautiful
My daughter's attire choices have run the gamut.
When she was little, she wouldn't wear anything but a dress. By 2nd grade she wouldn't wear a dress and would only wear slacks and shirts. Lots more changes in the next 20 years.
She got really hurt when I told her the clothes she brought to the Bahamas (a modest catholic culture) weren't appropriate. Only tourists dress scantily there.
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My bad!

I don't get it either, but I'm no hunter, so....
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I've only had one deer mounted, my first.
I wanted to put it over the fireplace when we moved here. Wife didn't want it so it sits in the basement.

Good thing I'm not wearing pants.

That time of day?
It is a good birthday, isn't it>
 
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I have sayed hey and haavent even got a response from anyone in like 10 days
I usually don't have time for niceties like hi and good morning so I just get to the meat of the conversation.

Avian Health Resource:
Field Manual of Wildlife Disease — General Field Procedures and Diseases of Birds

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The USGS National Wildlife Health Center is pleased to make available the Field Manual of Wildlife Diseases: General Field Procedures and Diseases of Birds. This field manual, a revised and expanded version of our 1988 Volume 1, Field Guide to Wildlife Diseases, was funded by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Division of Federal Aid, Administrative Grant No. AP95-017.
Purchase a printed copy

A printed version of the Field Manual is available at the USGS Store for $10 ($5 handling fee per order). The manual can also be ordered using the USGS Maps, Books, and Other Published Products Order Form.
Download an electronic copy

The full manual is available for download free of charge. The manual is in PDF format, you will need a PDF reader (like Adobe Reader) installed on your computer to read pdf files.
This chapter is about coccidiosis:
http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/field_manual/chapter_26.pdf
Are you familiar with World Poultry's Health Tool?
http://www.worldpoultry.net/Health/health_tool/

I really want this book!
I couldn't buy it, they said that the item is unavailable!
What book is it?

@ChickenCanoe , I always like talking to you.
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-Kathy
The feeling is mutual.
 
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Are you familiar with World Poultry's Health Tool?
http://www.worldpoultry.net/Health/health_tool/

I really want this book!
I couldn't buy it, they said that the item is unavailable!
What book is it?

@ChickenCanoe , I always like talking to you.
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-Kathy
The feeling is mutual.
I have to check that out.

The book is this one:
http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/field_manual/field_manual_of_wildlife_diseases.pdf

Has some interesting chapters. The two that caught my eye right away were coccidiosis and renal coccidiosis.

-Kathy
 

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