EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[daxigait]

Personally, I would either bring inside to basement, cellar, garage, somewhere warmer or  break quarantine. He came from NPIP flock owned by very reputable person. 

I agree. I am going to cage him in the main coop for a few days since I won't be able to watch his interaction with the two cockerels in the coop till Saturday and he has to be hurting. I can't handle it getting worse. I feel horrible enough.

 

[BantyChooks]

I'm telling Santa to put you on the naughty list It's snowing outside

That's about the average class size here, last I heard.

By the way, for a non-native English speaker not using translation software, you do exceedingly well with our language; vastly better than a lot of graduated Americans born here. I just wanted you to know that your efforts are applauded and appreciated.

X lots!

Hi guys! I need some advice again. Today is day 20 of my first incubation ( I originally thought today was day 21, and then I realized I had been calculating it wrong) anyway, I'm down to 4 viable eggs out of 8. They had all been moving and rocking until today. I only witnessed 2 of them moving. Totally normal? Or should I be worried? I mean, I am worried

but should I stop!?! No pips, no peeping in shell. Also I had read in the incubation thread to keep the temp at 98-98.5 degrees for the last three days. I have a still air, should I bump it to 99-99.5? Thanks in advance!

ha ha ha

omg yer bad

thats very frightening!!! lmao 

Couldn't help it....

I love the English language but when one writes, they are only supposed to use words and expressions at the 5th grade level so the majority of one's audience will understand. SAD!


The problem with blankets are twofold. Temp can rise too high and you may inhibit oxygen.

Incandescent lights generate heat but are prone to failure when they cycle on and off too frequently. They all have a duty cycle that causes them to fail - at the most inappropriate time. If you still want to use your screw in fixtures, you an switch to a ceramic heat emitter.
I prefer metallic heat elements that last much longer. You can still use some type of lamp in the circuit if you want to determine when power is being applied but you can get away with an LED or 7 watt incandescent.

Agree with the top quote. I was messsing with a grammar checker for fun, and it "dinged" me because the words I used were above 5th grade reading level. I couldn't believe my eyes....

Thank you very much. I've got quite a bit to tinker with before my next hatch now....

Dangit banty! You sent it to Ohio!

Oopsies, guess I missed by a bit.

If I had pictures of him you guys would know why I am worried. Like most of his breed he has a big comb and waddles. The top half of his comb has turned dark. A lot of his comb and one waddle are swollen. The waddle is a quarter inch thick the entire bottom half. That is the left waddle which based on where he roosts is by the east window.

I know what you mean- My roo had the exact thing happen when it went down to -30. He lost nearly all of his wattle on one side, and completely on the other side.

Looked pretty bad, but I just kept him in the house till the dead part shriveled up....

 

[Ladyfarm]

No need to worry now. Any damage done is already water under the bridge.

IMHO, those temps are way too high. One must always consider that a thermometer can be off.
Commercial hatcheries use 99.5. That is ideal and what forced air should be. A still air uses the temp of 100.5 IF measured at the top of the egg. That would make internal temp at the center 99.5. So in a still air, it is all about where the temperature is being measured.
An embryo can survive at 98 but can die at 104. If you are measuring 102 and it is off by 2F, it could be 104.
If you're measuring 100 and it is off by 2F, the embryos will survive regardless of whether it is high or low.
Toward the end of incubation, embryos have some metabolism that allows them to deal with larger temporary swings.
The key word is temporary. A long time at high or low temps is always a problem.


Really!

I don't think that's the best idea Akrnaf2 has come up with.

Well, this makes me feel terrible. I read the section on temps in still air under incubation thread, and it said to keep temps at 102 in still air. I thought that it was a bit high so I got to 101.3 for the most part. Even still I had 4 viable eggs at day 18. Actually I had 4 viable eggs until yesterday. I also followed what the thread said and kept my temp at 98.5 for the last 3 days, I was using 3 different thermometers. I found my probe thermometer to be most accurate and right near the eggs, at embryo level. All 4 were moving around yesterday, 2 were early today, and now nothing. I'm not sure if they are resting, or dead now!

 

[BullChick]

Its pouring cats and dogs here

May I please have a white German Shepherd? Oh! And a black kitten!!

 

[mlm Mike]

No need to worry now. Any damage done is already water under the bridge.

IMHO, those temps are way too high. One must always consider that a thermometer can be off.
Commercial hatcheries use 99.5. That is ideal and what forced air should be. A still air uses the temp of 100.5 IF measured at the top of the egg. That would make internal temp at the center 99.5. So in a still air, it is all about where the temperature is being measured.
An embryo can survive at 98 but can die at 104. If you are measuring 102 and it is off by 2F, it could be 104.
If you're measuring 100 and it is off by 2F, the embryos will survive regardless of whether it is high or low.
Toward the end of incubation, embryos have some metabolism that allows them to deal with larger temporary swings.
The key word is temporary. A long time at high or low temps is always a problem.


Really!

I don't think that's the best idea Akrnaf2 has come up with.

Well, this makes me feel terrible. I read the section on temps in still air under incubation thread, and it said to keep temps at 102 in still air. I thought that it was a bit high so I got to 101.3 for the most part. Even still I had 4 viable eggs at day 18. Actually I had 4 viable eggs until yesterday. I also followed what the thread said and kept my temp at 98.5 for the last 3 days, I was using 3 different thermometers. I found my probe thermometer to be most accurate and right near the eggs, at embryo level. All 4 were moving around yesterday, 2 were early today, and now nothing. I'm not sure if they are resting, or dead now!

They are most likely resting, there really isn't much activity in hatching eggs. You might see a wiggle when chick is positioning itself, a day or two before hatch. You might hear a chirp occasionally once an internal pip has happened. Where were you measuring the temp? In a still air the top temp would be around 102, but more importantly, egg level(middle of egg) should be about 99.5. I'm also curious on how you saw the chick moving, was this before lockdown (day 18).

 

[Ladyfarm]

They are most likely resting, there really isn't much activity in hatching eggs. You might see a wiggle when chick is positioning itself, a day or two before hatch. You might hear a chirp occasionally once an internal pip has happened. Where were you measuring the temp? In a still air the top temp would be around 102, but more importantly, egg level(middle of egg) should be about 99.5. I'm also curious on how you saw the chick moving, was this before lockdown (day 18). 

So day 19 I had the thermometer at egg level keeping it at 98.5! All 4 eggs were moving at lock down, laying flat and I could see the eggs themselves rocking back and forth. Only saw 2 of them moving earlier today, now nothing.

 

[Ladyfarm]

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So day 19 I had the thermometer at egg level keeping it at 98.5! All 4 eggs were moving at lock down, laying flat and I could see the eggs themselves rocking back and forth. Only saw 2 of them moving earlier today, now nothing.

I now have temp at 99.5 egg level, using my probe thermometer.

 

[mlm Mike]

Quote: OK, seeing the eggs wiggle, then no more wiggle is normal. After the wiggle they seem to rest a bit before pipping internally, length of time varies. But, too me it sounds like things are progressing normally.. Good luck!

 

[dan26552]

May I please have a white German Shepherd? Oh! And a black kitten!!

Sorry, not seeing any of those.

 

[mlm Mike]

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Quote: Sounds good!