EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[Beer can]

My brother in law helped my brother and I put our bator together, his dad has an old fridge that doesn't work any more, he and my brother are now plotting how to turn it into a bator

I've created monsters.

I have a extra extra fridge, the extra usually filled with pickles and sauerkraut, sometimes chickens 'resting' or brining, quarters of venison right now

the other fridge I so much want to get this kit for, will probably get me in lots of trouble though, someday.
http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LE...-xl.html/RK=0/RS=1LMqkZDvxHUexcyRjvNYFedYfB4-

or maybe go a little smaller with a mini fridge, also have one of them with a glass door, nice bud light football one that the glass door lights up, I do not like bud, really don't like anything 'light' and ain't much for football, looks like it would make a nice bator

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LE...-dc.html/RK=0/RS=8_pm4SaGmrhWSMM3iFyVkJ2VqCg-

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Quote: I'm talking about the flexible pans. You can literally run over them with a truck with no damage. I've used the pans and buckets for 50 years; never broke one. I had some dogs that tried to eat them 'til they only held about half the water they were supposed to, but they never broke. Sometimes, if I don't feel like stomping, I just beat 'em on the ground.
Oh, I know - I have a number of those as well. I just like these tough plastic ones for water - less "stuff" leaching into the water when it's 102F. I use those Fortex pans for SO many things - they're great because they are heavy enough not to flip easily. Oh, and they make GREAT dust baths for baby chicks!!!

It works!!!!!

I am SUPER impressed. Keep us posted on its stability and performance. Don't forget to CALIBRATE whatever thermometer and hygrometer you use with it - NO MATTER YOUR SOURCE FOR THESE ITEMS.

EXAMPLE: Fancy schmancy super-expensive incubator that came with paperwork claiming factory calibration (and NIST-certified thermometer/hygrometer inside). It's SUPER stable, I just know to set the temperature and humidity high by a set amount:

Quote: Ugh. Yep, that's tough... Cold is bad enough. Wet and cold....

Quote: Thanks!!! I will totally try that!

Quote: Thanks - I'll look into that. It may be useful to have an option for rare situations like we have here...

Quote: Didn't Joey do one of these? (Wasn't that the Barbie-Bator? With the photos with his muscles?

) @Ur-ur-ur-urrr

Quote: Sie =שיא =peak
Benny has arrived!!!!!!

- Ant Farm

 

[BantyChooks]

He meant that exactly! He IS two personalities!

Oh, I know - I have a number of those as well. I just like these tough plastic ones for water - less "stuff" leaching into the water when it's 102F. I use those Fortex pans for SO many things - they're great because they are heavy enough not to flip easily. Oh, and they make GREAT dust baths for baby chicks!!! I am SUPER impressed. Keep us posted on its stability and performance. Don't forget to CALIBRATE whatever thermometer and hygrometer you use with it - NO MATTER YOUR SOURCE FOR THESE ITEMS. EXAMPLE: Fancy schmancy super-expensive incubator that came with paperwork claiming factory calibration (and NIST-certified thermometer/hygrometer inside). It's SUPER stable, I just know to set the temperature and humidity high by a set amount: Ugh. Yep, that's tough... Cold is bad enough. Wet and cold.... Thanks!!! I will totally try that! Thanks - I'll look into that. It may be useful to have an option for rare situations like we have here... Didn't Joey do one of these? (Wasn't that the Barbie-Bator? With the photos with his muscles? ) @Ur-ur-ur-urrr Benny has arrived!!!!!! - Ant Farm

PM Joey if you want him to see; he doesn't get tags. But yeah, I think it was him.....Those photos sure ran up poor MC's water bill...

 

[Akrnaf2]

 

Sea or see?

Or in another language, si.

Perhaps it's "si, see the sea?"

maybe it is "see, sea the si".

Ho no
השיא is to see the sea!

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

PM Joey if you want him to see; he doesn't get tags. But yeah, I think it was him.....Those photos sure ran up poor MC's water bill...

Oh, no need to bother him.... (Actually, I don't get tags either.)

And yeah, I remember.

- Ant Farm

 

[Akrnaf2]

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The warehouse fire was apparently started by some homeless people trying to keep warm. One of the house fires was from a van catching on fire in the garage and another was a man cooking in his basement. I just checked it at just before 6AM and it is up to a balmy 1.4 F. Going all the way up to 25 today. I'm hoping this is the coldest of the season. The rest of the week is supposed to be 40s high and 20s for a low.

We may get the usual mid January break, but February is usually polar. Right now I am sitting in my car (not running since I dress in to many layers) while I wait for the mechanic since my truck would not start this morning. I won't sit in it because while my car is cold those day cabs are freezing tin cans. Good morning everyone. It is supposed to get up to a balmy thirty one today which will feel great after the below zero and single digits. I just hope the sun thaws my permanent waterer which froze up. I hope that it is not the heater in it again, but simply something stuck. It seems to only last a year or a year and a half.

It was 23F last night/this morning, which is about as cold as it ever gets here (probably broke some records). I went out this AM to find (no surprise) all the waterers frozen - they also have large feed pans full of water, and those froze over, but I could get the top 1/2" off as a disk. I don't envy you guys who deal with this all winter - not that it makes sense for me to have a heated waterer since it usually only freezes 2 or 3 times a year max here. It was both sad and funny to watch Switch try to "drink" and tap the top of the ice until I could get to the pan... Polly was the first one who figured out that Mommy fixed it. (Bear with me, I realize this is business as usual for all you polar bears.)

Good morning CC and Chaos! Do either of you have a story for my You might be a red neck if... thread?

There's the old Jeff Foxworthy one: You know you're a redneck if... there are 4 cars in your front yard and the only thing that moves is your house.

Nice visit, no pictures everything is in molt! :/ But we saw the chicken people film !

What did you think?

Yup. As a supplement, for the animal protein - since they're molting, though some folks do it year round. (All the protein in any of the feeds I can find is vegetable/soy.) They do really well on it. We've been chatting a lot about it over on the Breeding for Production thread. - Ant Farm

I wanted to add some protein numbers and pricing to what I said before. I was just at the grocery store and checked prices. Your numbers may vary. Most canned cat food started around 20 cents per ounce. Some were as low as 11% protein. Dry cat food varied between 12 and 28 cents per ounce. The protein varied between 11 and 33% protein. So if you just go buy cat food based on someone's suggestion, if you don't read the label for ingredients and protein %, you're just winging it. If you buy without reading the label, you could be lowering amino acids rather than increasing them. Mackerel, on the other hand, is 10 cents per ounce and you're getting plain fish with no additives which are added to supplement the meat or fish in cat food making the food specific to the needs of feline carnivores. So, in my mind, why pay more to enhance the amino acid balance of chicken feed by buying cat food when you can get mackerel that is about 23% protein and high in omega-3. The whole idea of upping protein during molt or for breeding is to improve the amino acid balance for omnivores from that which is in plant based diets. Crude protein is misleading in many ways. Some grains may be as high as 14% protein (though most are much lower) but they have huge deficiencies in certain amino acids. More of the amino acids are essential to chickens than humans.

Oh, I read the labels like crazy - if it's not good, then I don't bother and would just go get meat. Top three ingredients are meat. The ones I'm trying are between 40% and 45% crude protein. It's not cheap, but I'm not going through it all that fast, and I'm not sure other options are much cheaper (except that mackerel idea). I also do eggs as well when I have them (they are not laying much right now, no extras). I'm going to try the mackerel as you suggest, or maybe canned salmon - this is actually primarily for my layers, though, wondering how much and how frequent so the eggs aren't fishy... I don't want to do it too much because, as you said, there are cat-specific additives that are probably wasted on the chickens.

We had such a crazy busy weekend, I didn't have a chance to get on the thread and catch up until this morning. Hope everyone is staying warm and enjoying this Monday. We finally have our sweet puppy! She is so adorable and we love her so much already!

Oh, she is SUPER cute!!!!!!

Not to shabby. How about yourself?

I'm stepping into Banty's shoes now. Two, too, to. Two is a number - 2. Too is a synonym for also but can also mean excessive. Not too shabby. = Not excessively shabby. or I do that too. = I do that also. If you separate out those two things, it is easier. To can be tricky. Sometimes directional, as in toward something or an infinitive like - to go, to sow, to reap, to hatch. I'm going to the zoo. I don't have to do that. Use to as a preposition before a noun or as an infinitive before a verb. Many other languages don't have this conflict with to.

I think I love you...

I

Grammar Nazi indeed. Haven't learned the proper usage of there/their since I was first taught in grade school, so it's probably not going to happen.

If it has an heir in it it has ownership.On the other hand, there is a here in every there

I like that!!!!! - Ant Farm

The chickens were wonderful! the owners.....

 

[Akrnaf2]

That's why I stick with the rubber feed pans, usually Fortex. I'll stomp a hole in the ice, or flip it over I just check it more often.

Exactly what I do. Only one's broke in the time I've had chooks, and they weren't new by a long shot when I got 'em.... Crazy sturdy for some of the stuff I've done to them! (Think a not-exactly-small person jumping up and down on a rubber bucket half full of ice )

I'm talking about the flexible pans. You can literally run over them with a truck with no damage. I've used the pans and buckets for 50 years; never broke one. I had some dogs that tried to eat them 'til they only held about half the water they were supposed to, but they never broke. Sometimes, if I don't feel like stomping, I just beat 'em on the ground.

Oh, I know - I have a number of those as well. I just like these tough plastic ones for water - less "stuff" leaching into the water when it's 102F. I use those Fortex pans for SO many things - they're great because they are heavy enough not to flip easily. Oh, and they make GREAT dust baths for baby chicks!!!

It works!!!!!

I am SUPER impressed. Keep us posted on its stability and performance. Don't forget to CALIBRATE whatever thermometer and hygrometer you use with it - NO MATTER YOUR SOURCE FOR THESE ITEMS. EXAMPLE: Fancy schmancy super-expensive incubator that came with paperwork claiming factory calibration (and NIST-certified thermometer/hygrometer inside). It's SUPER stable, I just know to set the temperature and humidity high by a set amount:

You've got it. You're smart enough to come around. I meant to say that it isn't an indictment on you. You just need to understand that for grammar/spelling Nazis it is akin to hearing fingernails scraping on a blackboard. Brilliant. I think I remember that ditty. I have blood smearing on all of my waterers and feeders. The blood vessels are very close to the surface of combs and wattles. If you massage and squeeze them, you'll get blood to ooze. Watch for swelling and heat. If there's a lot of swelling feel them and if there's extreme temps, they're infected. That doesn't necessarily mean they need meds. But since you only have one, just check for infection. Over the years I've had lots of Mediterranean roosters with black tips and wattles. They all recovered fine though I'm sure they weren't happy.

Well, he was feeling well enough to fight with my blue Ameraucana. I was worried about both of them. I wish there was a nice way to introduce cocks. I split them after a while putting them on opposite sides of the roost and quickly shut off the light. Hopefully they won't hurt each other too much. My Am. is much bigger, but the Penedescas is a determined fella. I have one hen with a bit of black, and my HRIR cock has a touch of black on his wattles and the very back of his comb. We were so damp at fifty five at five am with misty drizzle, 32 by six, shifting to icy rain followed by below zero temps by dark. I don't know how to deal with moisture and cold like that. That causes bone deep cold as my shivering horse and goat testified Saturday night.

Ugh. Yep, that's tough... Cold is bad enough. Wet and cold....

The hose froze, and I had to go to work. This wasn't too bad, and this way they could have the water underneath without me needing to haul water from the bathtub to the outside repeatedly... Thankfully, shouldn't be a common occurrence here.

For future reference it you grab the hose about four feet from the end with your left hand and arch it up and over at least just above your head with the other hand about fine feet down the hose while you count to ten ( more is a waste, and less may not work) then move the left hand to the right and repeat to the end it will drain enough not to freeze.

Thanks!!! I will totally try that!

Ugh. This is a collapsing hose, but since it's sometimes under pressure for a little while as I do chores, it doesn't flatten out as much as is ideal any more. The left over water was frozen - I probably could have gotten it going eventually, but no time for it. @daxigait - what was that cat bed warmer thing you were referring to? - Ant Farm

It is a microwaveable cat bed warmer. Don't know what mine was anymore, but it is something like this one.

Thanks - I'll look into that. It may be useful to have an option for rare situations like we have here...

My brother in law helped my brother and I put our bator together, his dad has an old fridge that doesn't work any more, he and my brother are now plotting how to turn it into a bator I've created monsters.

Fridges were discussed a lot on the old part of this thread. I think [@=/u/418950/CanadaChicken]@CanadaChicken[/@]built one, but I am not sure if that is the right person.

Didn't Joey do one of these? (Wasn't that the Barbie-Bator? With the photos with his muscles? ) @Ur-ur-ur-urrr

See? SEE??

Sea or see? Or in another language, si.

Sie =שיא =peak

Benny has arrived!!!!!! - Ant Farm

A yes , and he is going to work in a instant!

 

[dan26552]

I've used wine fridges/coolers as bators before.

Nice. I'm talking full size double door fridge though.

I have a extra extra fridge, the extra usually filled with pickles and sauerkraut, sometimes chickens 'resting' or brining, quarters of venison right now the other fridge I so much want to get this kit for, will probably get me in lots of trouble though, someday. http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV7xisVhYTX8A6BcnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTBybGY3bmpvBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1482236386/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fincubatorwarehouse.com%2fincukit-xl.html/RK=0/RS=1LMqkZDvxHUexcyRjvNYFedYfB4- or maybe go a little smaller with a mini fridge, also have one of them with a glass door, nice bud light football one that the glass door lights up, I do not like bud, really don't like anything 'light' and ain't much for football, looks like it would make a nice bator http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVi6is1hYhKEAoBMnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByOHZyb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1482236963/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fincubatorwarehouse.com%2f48-watt-incukit-dc.html/RK=0/RS=8_pm4SaGmrhWSMM3iFyVkJ2VqCg-

Just say you found a better use for the extra extra than collecting dust .

Oh, I know - I have a number of those as well. I just like these tough plastic ones for water - less "stuff" leaching into the water when it's 102F. I use those Fortex pans for SO many things - they're great because they are heavy enough not to flip easily. Oh, and they make GREAT dust baths for baby chicks!!! I am SUPER impressed. Keep us posted on its stability and performance. Don't forget to CALIBRATE whatever thermometer and hygrometer you use with it - NO MATTER YOUR SOURCE FOR THESE ITEMS. EXAMPLE: Fancy schmancy super-expensive incubator that came with paperwork claiming factory calibration (and NIST-certified thermometer/hygrometer inside). It's SUPER stable, I just know to set the temperature and humidity high by a set amount: Ugh. Yep, that's tough... Cold is bad enough. Wet and cold.... Thanks!!! I will totally try that! Thanks - I'll look into that. It may be useful to have an option for rare situations like we have here... Didn't Joey do one of these? (Wasn't that the Barbie-Bator? With the photos with his muscles? ) @Ur-ur-ur-urrr Benny has arrived!!!!!! - Ant Farm

Thanks! I will! I hope to put eggs in Wednesday! e We did do that.

 

[Beer can]

Well, he was feeling well enough to fight with my blue Ameraucana. I was worried about both of them. I wish there was a nice way to introduce cocks. I split them after a while putting them on opposite sides of the roost and quickly shut off the light. Hopefully they won't hurt each other too much. My Am. is much bigger, but the Penedescas is a determined fella.

I have one hen with a bit of black, and my HRIR cock has a touch of black on his wattles and the very back of his comb. We were so damp at fifty five at five am with misty drizzle, 32 by six, shifting to icy rain followed by below zero temps by dark. I don't know how to deal with moisture and cold like that. That causes bone deep cold as my shivering horse and goat testified Saturday night.

All of my experience with frostbite has been with the cocks and their big combs after months of below zero and double digit negative windchill, usually just the tips and heal with no ill effect come late spring. Worst I've seen, not mine, wattles dipped in their water than froze, awful pics. I keep open waterers, don't know why I haven't experienced this. Last winter I had red sussex cockerels get swollen wattles from frostbite, not black but not good, the giants didn't though, watching them I realized the giants wattles were smaller, the sussex hung down and they dragged them across the ice when they were eating free ranging.
We've had warm then cold, below zero with -20 windchill back up to warm 30s, now cold again right this second we are at 4.
I keep coops with pop doors open, all with large runs, one 8x16 ply wood good ventilation, a 4x8 good ventilation and a sort of hoop coop dog kennel roof tarp and three sides tarp, one open completely wall, all of them, three giant pullets of course doing great, two NN pullets with no feathers on their necks doing great, and the NN small bowtie cockerel also no frostbite.
IMHO open up the coop if the outside air is humid, don't worry about the cold, the humidity is the bad guy.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Quote:
Gotta chime in here - my temps are NOTHING compared to yours, but yup, the Naked Necks have shown themselves to be unfazed by the cold. Too bad some folks don't like the way they look, I think they're the perfect bird!!!!

- Ant Farm