EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[Wickedchicken6]

I guess scratch is sold differently every where..
Here is is 95% corn.

See, now that I should have guessed. Obvious. You gotta market your corn somewhere.

This!

https://www.azurestandard.com/shop/...try-kamut-scratch-organic/15962?package=GP520

That's an exceptional protein level for what I hear most scratch is.

Thanks.
So what I finally just learned is that it is not just a question of what ones feeds but what brand they feed too.

There is likely a widespread rule of thumb they more or less go by...but each company will likely have it's own standard. Poultry is one of the species to metabolize some mycotoxins well...so affected grain is marketed to such species of livestock that can utilize it as well. Not all grain is suitable for human consumption, or even certain species. Hogs can't handle feed with high DON (fusarium;deoxynivalenol)

I just got off of the phone with "my" feed company...
The first 3 ingredients are listed as this:
INGREDIENT STATEMENT: Grain products, plant protein products, processed grain by-products TAKE A WILD GUESS what the number one ingredient is????
Anyone???
@Wickedchicken6
He said corn and milo, alfafa, then the third product is millet!
I almost pooped. (not really)

See! And you question my logic???
My logic is undeniable.

Seriously though, corn is not surprising as I mentioned above. It's one of your main crops. Milo I had to look up. That's sorghum, we don't grow it here but you guys do...according to the Wik:

"Grain sorghum is the third most important cereal crop grown in the United States and the fifth most important cereal crop grown in the world. In 2010, Nigeria was the world's largest producer of grain sorghum, followed by the United States and India. In developed countries, and increasingly in developing countries such as India, the predominant use of sorghum is as fodder for poultry and cattle.[2][3] Leading exporters in 2010 were the United States, Australia and Argentina; Mexico was the largest importer of sorghum."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_sorghum

First thing that popped up was Nestle Milo. It's one of your huge commodities, Nestle has used that to their advantage to produce and market this drink. It's not by accident.
https://www.madewithnestle.ca/milo

Millet is a relatively inexpensive grain to buy as feed. It isn't processed that well by the ruminant gut but it is quite lovely for birds. I believe the last millet we sold was $.14/lb. Here one bag of budgie food is about $7/kg. I have to laugh when I see that. That's why I got them to leave 5 feet of millet for me in the 1350 grain bin.
I wasn't born yesterday. We don't grow millet that often for seed...we grow it for fodder and bale it up as green feed. That's what I was raking.

Here wheat is one of our main commodities and it's marketed as such. Wheat is one of the mains in our scratch; in the future I have to remember the differences between the countries. Wheat is less than $5.bushel...a bag of chick starter is approx. $14.69

 

[daxigait]

@kwhites634 so how did your hatch come out? Are you feeling better again? Good morning!

 

[BantyChooks]

@BantyChooks Good morning! So how is the coop teardown coming? I am trying to figure out the stuff for winter myself including who goes where for water you know how that goes. Did you see the picture of the boys last night? What do you think of them now?

Morning dax. Teardown has been completed and I'm trying and failing to get the stupid ground at least sort of level.

Plan is to complete the floor supports on the ground, then use that as a template so I can make sure the strings are right and level at the same time.

 

[daxigait]

@Akrnaf2 Shalom! So how are your students this year? Is it shaping up okay?
I really like the dark eggs, but they are so dark they make my Rhode Island red eggs look very pale.

 

[daxigait]

See, now that I should have guessed. Obvious. You gotta market your corn somewhere.

That's an exceptional protein level for what I hear most scratch is.

There is likely a widespread rule of thumb they more or less go by...but each company will likely have it's own standard. They get in samples from farmers and such just like the grain companies. I had to chuckle when they had the sample bags of grain lined up on their desk the one time I got starter. I've had excellent scratch and terrible scratch. The company I buy starter from now has terrible scratch. Pigs and chickens are

There is likely a widespread rule of thumb they more or less go by...but each company will likely have it's own standard. Poultry is one of the species to metabolize some mycotoxins well...so affected grain is marketed to such species of livestock that can utilize it as well. Not all grain is suitable for human consumption, or even certain species. Hogs can't handle feed with high DON (fusarium;deoxynivalenol)

See! And you question my logic??? View attachment 1140763
My logic is undeniable. Oh yeahhhhhh!

Seriously though, corn is not surprising as I mentioned above. It's one of your main crops. Milo I had to look up. That's sorghum, we don't grow it here but you guys do...according to the Wik:

"Grain sorghum is the third most important cereal crop grown in the United States and the fifth most important cereal crop grown in the world. In 2010, Nigeria was the world's largest producer of grain sorghum, followed by the United States and India. In developed countries, and increasingly in developing countries such as India, the predominant use of sorghum is as fodder for poultry and cattle.[2][3] Leading exporters in 2010 were the United States, Australia and Argentina; Mexico was the largest importer of sorghum."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_sorghum

First thing that popped up was Nestle Milo. It's one of your huge commodities, Nestle has used that to their advantage to produce and market this drink. It's not by accident.
https://www.madewithnestle.ca/milo

Millet is a relatively inexpensive grain to buy as feed. It isn't processed that well by the ruminant gut but it is quite lovely for birds. I believe the last millet we sold was $.14/lb. Here one bag of budgie food is about $7/kg. I have to laugh when I see that. That's why I got them to keep 5 feet of millet for me in the 1350 grain bin.
I wasn't born yesterday. We don't grow millet that often for seed...we grow it for fodder and bale it up as green feed. That's what I was raking.

Here wheat is one of our main commodities and it's marketed as such. Wheat is one of the mains in our scratch; in the future I have to remember the differences between the countries. Wheat is less than $5.bushel...a bag of chick starter is approx. $14.69

Is there are good article somewhere that describes that different grains and the feed needs of chickens/remnants?

 

[daxigait]

Morning dax. Teardown has been completed and I'm trying and failing to get the stupid ground at least sort of level.

Plan is to complete the floor supports on the ground, then use that as a template so I can make sure the strings are right and level at the same time.

Well I hope you get it sorted out good luck on your project. I am putting an extension on my barn that will be the loafing shed, and then enclosing what was the loafing shed so that I can have a stall for kidding or sick animals. I started this project a year-and-a-half ago and have all the materials. I just have not had the time to get it done, but with as many nannies as I have kidding this year I need it done before winter.

 

[BantyChooks]

Well I hope you get it sorted out good luck on your project. I am putting an extension on my barn that will be the loafing shed, and then enclosing what was the roping shed so that I can have a stroller for kidding or sick animals. I started this project a year-and-a-half ago and have all the materials. I just have not had the time to get it done, but with this many bullets as I have kidding this year I need it done before winter.
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That's a great idea! Oh, and I did see your pictures. They're adorable.

 

[Akrnaf2]

Do you have a link on this goat toy or can you explain what is involved? Thanks!

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[daxigait]

That's a great idea! Oh, and I did see your pictures. They're adorable.

Thanks, they are not as cute and adorable as they were in the first picture, but I think they are looking good.
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@Farmer Connie

 

[daxigait]

Well, my Penadesenca cock over CCL or leghorns have you loaded some black pullets. They are a much smaller bird than my Reds. I we'll find out in a couple of more weeks what color eggs they lay. They hatched May 31st.