Egg injury during shipping...can we do anything about it??

[BeardedChick]

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The key problem is my roo is a Polish bantam! Yuck!

I am supposed to be getting a set of SQ faverolles eggs in Spring so I can hatch out a really nice roo and hopefully some hens, too...

Eventually I'd like to be able so share nice Faverolles as they are a favorite breed of mine (and the roos are so handsome!).

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

...Switching from the carton method to individually wrapped eggs in either bubblewrap or thin foam....

Glad to hear it! Another convert!

Merry Christmas!
Lisa​

 

[greathorse]

I hope this is not hijacking a thread. It is my thought/theory that it is either air pressure or temperature in the aircraft that destroys these eggs. I have recieved more than one impecabbly packaged eggs shipment only to have a horrible hatch. Has anyone put one of those temp recorders in a box to see how cold they get? Is the aircraft pressurized in the area where eggs would ship?

It is my guess that there is not enough revenue at this point to justify an all out study on the whole matter. It would be great if some ag student could do a full blown research. I have had much more bad luck than good, and the best packaged eggs had the worst results. Not that I believe that packing is not important if of course is very important.

Thanks

 

[Three Cedars Silkies]

See...greathorse...that's what I mean. The eggs can appear to be packaged very well and there is no damage to the eggshell...but there is damage to the contents.

You may be right about the planes, but I thought shippers only use pressurized cargo planes or trucks. Otherwise our live chickens would freeze to death before they got where they were going.

 

[monarc23]

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Did you ever do that experiment in elementary school building a package for an egg and then dropping the egg from 1 story up? I remember doing that and for certain packings, the egg didn't get broken.

I could be entirely wrong, but it seems to me that there should be a way to package that dampens the shock better.

What I remember from school is one of the kids packaged their egg in a ziplock with water and paper towels and then some kind of outer casing and the egg made it.

So I was thinking that something like a viscous foam like memory foam or the stuff that Skito uses in their saddle pads might do a very good job of reducing concussion. It would be cost prohibitive, but that's another matter...

If anyones up for an experiement, get a ziplock, flour and an egg. Pour some flour in the ziplock then the egg, then fill up the rest of the ziplock with flour, make sure you can't see the egg. Drop it from a high height and it shouldnt break.

This post made me remember my science project i did in elementary school. We were told to do/make anything that makes it impossible for an egg to break when dropped from a latter, I forgot about the project until the nightbefore it was due, so I was upset and my mom called a friend who suggested the flour method. We didnt believe her but tried it and it worked! Took my ziplock filled with flour and an egg to school and the teacher looked atme like i was crazy. Mine was the only egg that didnt break....cept htere was a big lack of creativitiy on mine! LOL!

 

[BeardedChick]

Has anyone put one of those temp recorders in a box to see how cold they get? Is the aircraft pressurized in the area where eggs would ship?

Um, YES, I did just that about a week ago. I sent an Accurite via priority mail from Colorado to VA to see what the minimum temperature would be...

So far, IT'S LOST IN THE MAIL!!!!!!

Maybe it will show up there today, I can only hope.

Your packages are not guaranteed to be in pressurized or temperature controlled parts of the airplane in transit. It used to be that way, but now they contract out their mail shipping and anything goes.

The other thing I learned from my friend who is a pilot is that the in-air temperatures will be the same whether it's summer or winter... The difference will be how cold it is where they store your shipment between flights.

I wonder about the effects of pressure, too. It seems like I get a lot of eggs with ridiculous pore size, and I have to wonder if pressure or something has a damaging effect on the pores.​

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

...I sent an Accurite via priority mail from Colorado to VA to see what the minimum temperature would be...

So far, IT'S LOST IN THE MAIL!!!!!! ...

That's funny!
I've been tempted to do that too, but my thermometers that read min / max are always busy in the bators.

Merry Christmas!
Lisa​

 

[BeardedChick]

I've been tempted to do that too, but my thermometers that read min / max are always busy in the bators.

I got this one new and the probe was not working right on iit... So thinks me, I'll package it up, send it round trip, then return it. What they hay, its broken, might as well get some use out of it. DH was in VA for a week, so he was going to bring it back.

And now it's lost. SIGH. I hope it shows up in VA some day!

(I also put the x-mas cards for the VA family in the box and I'm not so happy those are lost, too)​

 

[Three Cedars Silkies]

Bearded...if pressurizing can have an effect on the pore size of an eggshell...think what it could do to the soft yolk and albumen of an egg.

The more I think about all the variables, the more discouraged I get!

 

[BeardedChick]

if pressurizing can have an effect on the pore size of an eggshell...think what it could do to the soft yolk and albumen of an egg.

Well, see, this is one of those things that could sort of be tested... The sender would need to candle and mark the porous eggs (pictures would be handy). The receiver would need to candle and see if any of the eggs that were marked as not being porous looked porous...

But what got me wondering is the number of eggs that I receive that look just like the pictures on the candling sites of eggs that they say are too porous to likely be viable.

It just makes me wonder, too.​