Egg problem or cecal worms or normal?

[Boonie Stomper]

Thanks, Barbara.
I agree with you and although it was a time and gas expense plus the $ for the product, it was a fantastic reconnaissance mission. I did find out current prices and availability of some other products in the stores and it was my 1st visit in that particular vet clinic. (did I mention I worked for a vet a long time ago).
The tractor store said chicks and more products of course are due in 2 weeks! And I got 5 pounds of hulled sunflower seed for my and my birds enjoyment.
Then I hit 3 dimseys up for a feed payday worth $$$! Not a bad day really. I do want more evidence before using the chemical, too. It *could* be egg components or even intestinal lining. I am keeping an eye on her behavior and hope will get her egg today or at least another dropping. If there is no evidence of worms then maybe will use some apple cider vinegar in their water or feed mash and put the Wazine on the shelf with the DE I bought last year and never used yet.

 

[Boonie Stomper]

Update - gave extra calcium.
No egg yet.
A sloppy brown poop with nothing weird.
Reaserch on the web led me to an extremely likely I.D. being Trichuris Avis or rerelative a.k.a. whipworm.
http://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2601&Itemid=2883
The picture matches very close
and the piperidine should work.

 

[Boonie Stomper]

Update: normal egg and behavior 1st thing this a.m.
Question: Has anyone tried using the wazine 17 by the measuring and dosing of it directly to a chicken as alternate to dosing all the water they drink for 24 hours?
Would potentially offer controlled dose plus let her continue out in the yard drinking wherever she wants. Also less product waste.

 

[Eggcessive]

Wazine could be administered for 24 hours in a dog crate. Since it is only taken during the daytime when they are awake, you could place the chicken inside from early morning with food and medicated water, and let her out in the late evening for roost time. Discard any eggs laid for 2 weeks after treatment. Wazine only treats round worms.

Sorry that you did not find the dewormers in your feed store, but SafeGuard is in the goat and sheep medicines. SafeGuard Liquid Goat Wormer or Equine paste, and Panacur Eqine Pate are the usual brands of fenbendazole. For Valbazen, some restores, such as Rural King and Southern State Co-op sell it, but you can easily purchase it online from many stores.

I thought you suspected cecal worms, not whip worms. Keep in mind that chickens can get about 5 types of worms, though round worms are the most common. Most healthy chickens can tolerate at the occasional worm, and without a microscope, one cannot see any worm eggs present.

 

[MrsBachbach]

Estimate. Age 10 to 11 months.
The photos are clearer in my phone. How can the worm be positive ID? Nothing moving. No apparent sections. Weird fat ring shape on one. Ends either into a thread or into mucousy glob. Small pus like coagulations one of which resembles immature yolk. Laid normal egg yesterday.

Doesn't look like worms to me, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have any.

What it looks like to me is she is suffering or has suffered from an e coli infection of her egg gland or could be suffering from some disease causing this. I'd take that stuff to a vet and get some antibiotics for her if it isn't too late to correct this. Or do some research and find the appropriate ones to put her on yourself. Of course you will have to forget about using eggs from her for a while.

PS. I've seen that ugly cottage cheese, stringy membrane stuff myself. One time found it INSIDE and egg! It is from an infection or disease and seems to have messed up her egg shell track. My hen eventually recovered, although laid less, some hens don't recover if it's too far advanced, so hope you can get her taken care of.

 

[Eggcessive]

Fecal floats from a vet can be reasonably priced, although my vet charges quite a bit. That would rule out any worms or coccidiosis. Rates can vary from $15 to $50, and there is one available called Fecal Worm Test online, where you buy the kit and send in the sample. I don't know how reliable that one is, but it is available for $23 on Amazon Prime.

 

[Boonie Stomper]

Doesn't look like worms to me, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have any.

What it looks like to me is she is suffering or has suffered from an e coli infection of her egg gland or could be suffering from some disease causing this. I'd take that stuff to a vet and get some antibiotics for her if it isn't too late to correct this. Or do some research and find the appropriate ones to put her on yourself. Of course you will have to forget about using eggs from her for a while.

PS. I've seen that ugly cottage cheese, stringy membrane stuff myself. One time found it INSIDE and egg! It is from an infection or disease and seems to have messed up her egg shell track. My hen eventually recovered, although laid less, some hens don't recover if it's too far advanced, so hope you can get her taken care of.

Maintaining status quo for now...
You may be spot on with your assessment too. Maybe she has both problems!?!