Embden Geese- Need some help/advice, please!

[Le stylo]

We got 2 Embden Geese last year. From what I can tell we got a male & female due to coloring & research on that.
They're names are Twiggy (m) & Piney (f). When they were younger they wanted to be with us, even jumped out of the fencing to come find me across the yard when they were like 2-3wks old! lol Was crazy.

Nowadays they've become considerately more & more aggressive. They've bit my son 2x leaving marks; usually it's the F doing it. But they've also bit the boots of some of my other children & scared (lightly hurt their toes).
I could understand it with our children some, but now they're repetitively doing it to me & the spouse! If I'm cleaning the coop, they're deafening at their constant fussing & hissing. I will have to block them out.
We have to block them out when gathering eggs, as they will bite the children who's job it is to gather them.

It's to the point they're up for sale. I didn't want to do that but they're also quite the pair of bullies. They hog the water sources from the ducks. They've even started biting some of the hens that are in the nesting boxes. Not sure why.

All that to say, now I do know that mating season is coming soon. I knew they're going to be territorial. But with the aggression they've already started pre-mating season, I'm concerned they're going to be untouchable.
They're currently in the hoop tractor, awaiting a buyer.

So, while I will sell them for the betterment of the family, we did enjoy them when they were younger. We also would like to offer their offspring for sale on our homestead. So I am kind of torn on selling them.

Is there anything we can do to calm them down? Make them more friendly?

I would also love to know if we truly do have M & F or it's two males?
We have seen M mount & "mate" F, but we wouldn't tell 100% if deed was done. If you know what I mean. But the female really, really fights him mounting her. I don't know if that's normal, or not though, as again still new to this part of geese.

Any advice?? I'll post pics in the comments of them when they were babies. Maybe yall can tell me sex that way. (It's what I went off.)

Those look like my two Embdens, Ricky (m) and Lucy (f) from I love Lucy, lol. Lucy actually went missing last afternoon.
I don't know if I for sure. There's no really way of telling when they grow out unless you see one of them lay on egg. You pic of them older looks just like mine, I am 95% sure you and I have a M and a F. Now determining which on is which is a little harder.

I would stick it out and atleast wait until spring and broody season is over. I sang to mine and sat with them when they were goslings and now when I sing a little tune they quiet down and listen (it's the sweetest thing) Geese need quality time throughout their life, it doesn't end when they get their feathers in. Some people don't have that time. I don't have any other farm animals so I can put a lot of time in them.

When they're older and more aggressive, some people would say it's to late. You can sell them that's totally your choice and maybe it's best for your flocks, you know the situation. I think if it was me I would just sit down with them in a room/pen and just sit and give them food/snacks. Maybe bring some extra socks, thick boots and maybe gloves, and if you need maybe bring headphones or something for the noise.
Or if your goose is anything like mine, I would separate them. (Not like different rooms but like a see through fence or something so they can still see each other) My gander is my baby so I'm sure it'll be different, but I would go to the male first and just sit with him and wait til he settles down and doesn't mind you around. It might take a bit or even days. Then do it the same to the female.

If that's to much work and time you can sell them if you want, completely your choice.

 

[BlessedChaosHomestead]

Those look like my two Embdens, Ricky (m) and Lucy (f) from I love Lucy, lol. Lucy actually went missing last afternoon.
I don't know if I for sure. There's no really way of telling when they grow out unless you see one of them lay on egg. You pic of them older looks just like mine, I am 95% sure you and I have a M and a F. Now determining which on is which is a little harder.

I would stick it out and atleast wait until spring and broody season is over. I sang to mine and sat with them when they were goslings and now when I sing a little tune they quiet down and listen (it's the sweetest thing) Geese need quality time throughout their life, it doesn't end when they get their feathers in. Some people don't have that time. I don't have any other farm animals so I can put a lot of time in them.

When they're older and more aggressive, some people would say it's to late. You can sell them that's totally your choice and maybe it's best for your flocks, you know the situation. I think if it was me I would just sit down with them in a room/pen and just sit and give them food/snacks. Maybe bring some extra socks, thick boots and maybe gloves, and if you need maybe bring headphones or something for the noise.
Or if your goose is anything like mine, I would separate them. (Not like different rooms but like a see through fence or something so they can still see each other) My gander is my baby so I'm sure it'll be different, but I would go to the male first and just sit with him and wait til he settles down and doesn't mind you around. It might take a bit or even days. Then do it the same to the female.

If that's to much work and time you can sell them if you want, completely your choice.

Thank you.
They’ve actually calmed down a bit here lately.

The male is always the nicest to me over the female. Lol I’m not sure why. I’ve been able to pet him a few times & he will walk away afterward.

But sadly no eggs. Is it still too early for that??

 

[Le stylo]

Thank you.
They’ve actually calmed down a bit here lately.

The male is always the nicest to me over the female. Lol I’m not sure why. I’ve been able to pet him a few times & he will walk away afterward.

But sadly no eggs. Is it still too early for that??

It is a little early for eggs.
My male (Ricky) is my sweetheart, Lucy is the annoying, loud, dramatic one and Ricky walks up to me and sometimes lets me pick him up (not his favorite thing) I usually lift him up to his house because he doesn’t go up the ramp. They like stairs, lol.
Actually Lucy as being gone for six days, we are along a river and she most be on the other side! We’re trying to get her back.