embryo dead

[mr senior]

so , about 11 days ago (ish) my eggs arrived , the problem was the eggs were delivered a week before they were meant to ,6 days before my incubator came , so i made my own incubator with a box , some foil , a light that gave off some heat , a heat mat and a thermometer and hygrometer, with water in a dish for humidity ,it worked very well but it was hard to keep at the right temp , so about 5 / 6 days after my eggs started incubating the actual incubator came , its an incubator that you put the eggs pointy side down and i did , but the problem is that my eggs started off incubating on their side and 2 days in with the new incubator one embryo looks to be dead and the second one might be too

so my question is , can eggs that have started off incubation on their side be turned pointy side down?
i have found nothing online that says it harms them or doesnt
im not a farmer or a homsteader , these birds are for pets so im really already attatched to these
any help would be amazing and i appolagize for my litracy skills or lack thereof

 

[sourland]

Yes they can be placed in your incubator pointy side down. Good luck for a successful hatch. Shipped eggs can be iffy.

 

[mcdze]

doesnt matter .. its pretty normal for a couple to be duds anyway 'but' be sure theyre bad, if theyre darker eggs its real hard to tell at an early stage ...

 

[mr senior]

Yes they can be placed in your incubator pointy side down. Good luck for a successful hatch. Shipped eggs can be iffy.

thank you but i meant the embryos already started developing with the egg on its side and then like 6 days into incubation they wire placed pointy end down

 

[mr senior]

doesnt matter .. its pretty normal for a couple to be duds anyway 'but' be sure theyre bad, if theyre darker eggs its real hard to tell at an early stage ...

thank you , they were doing really good but im wondering if changing from laying on the side to pointy end down is what might have killed the embryo

 

[Mellowmalt]

the problem I can see is that you were most likely eager to swap the eggs over straight away.
Generally any new incubator should be set up and checked for a couple of days first, make adjustments, check how it holds humidity, temps and that everything stays stable. This generally takes 6-24 hours from pluggin in an incubator and then more time to check everything is working as it should.
I have made the mistake of adding eggs after just 6 hours of plugging things in and things might seem stable but then they will change overnight and things can overheat.
I'm sure it's been the reason for some lost eggs recently.
Even if the thermometer doesn't pick up overheating it can still happen. It is a good idea to position the thermometer between the heat source and the eggs.
Anyway I hope things go ok, there is nothing you can do about mistakes if mistakes were made except learn from them.

I have no answer about placing them pointy side down or sideways except I doubt it will have been the reason but thats just my opinion

I also believe eggs can aborb days after experiencing bad conditions, for example if they get too cold for too long, the embrio might be able to survive the incident but then still die a couple days later so it can be hard to pinpoint the exact cause all the time except think about what one changed.

Like you said going from sideways to pointy side down was one change but you made a lot of changes, pretty much everything changed by swapping incubators.

 

[mr senior]

the problem I can see is that you were most likely eager to swap the eggs over straight away.
Generally any new incubator should be set up and checked for a couple of days first, make adjustments, check how it holds humidity, temps and that everything stays stable. This generally takes 6-24 hours from pluggin in an incubator and then more time to check everything is working as it should.
I have made the mistake of adding eggs after just 6 hours of plugging things in and things might seem stable but then they will change overnight and things can overheat.
I'm sure it's been the reason for some lost eggs recently.
Even if the thermometer doesn't pick up overheating it can still happen. It is a good idea to position the thermometer between the heat source and the eggs.
Anyway I hope things go ok, there is nothing you can do about mistakes if mistakes were made except learn from them.

I have no answer about placing them pointy side down or sideways except I doubt it will have been the reason but thats just my opinion

I also believe eggs can aborb days after experiencing bad conditions, for example if they get too cold for too long, the embrio might be able to survive the incident but then still die a couple days later so it can be hard to pinpoint the exact cause all the time except think about what one changed.

Like you said going from sideways to pointy side down was one change but you made a lot of changes, pretty much everything changed by swapping incubators.

thank you so much for your help , it was a fault with the delivery time that made me so paranoid about everything but the incubator seems to be suited to my needs and appears to work well , im going to try again with new eggs now that im prepared , im hopeful that one of the embryos is still alive , ive invested alot of time into research about these birds and their incubation but i guess experience beats everything

 

[mr senior]

so , about 11 days ago (ish) my eggs arrived , the problem was the eggs were delivered a week before they were meant to ,6 days before my incubator came , so i made my own incubator with a box , some foil , a light that gave off some heat , a heat mat and a thermometer and hygrometer, with water in a dish for humidity ,it worked very well but it was hard to keep at the right temp , so about 5 / 6 days after my eggs started incubating the actual incubator came , its an incubator that you put the eggs pointy side down and i did , but the problem is that my eggs started off incubating on their side and 2 days in with the new incubator one embryo looks to be dead and the second one might be too

so my question is , can eggs that have started off incubation on their side be turned pointy side down?
i have found nothing online that says it harms them or doesnt
im not a farmer or a homsteader , these birds are for pets so im really already attatched to these
any help would be amazing and i appolagize for my litracy skills or lack thereof

UPDATE:both embryos seem to be alive

 

[mr senior]

the problem I can see is that you were most likely eager to swap the eggs over straight away.
Generally any new incubator should be set up and checked for a couple of days first, make adjustments, check how it holds humidity, temps and that everything stays stable. This generally takes 6-24 hours from pluggin in an incubator and then more time to check everything is working as it should.
I have made the mistake of adding eggs after just 6 hours of plugging things in and things might seem stable but then they will change overnight and things can overheat.
I'm sure it's been the reason for some lost eggs recently.
Even if the thermometer doesn't pick up overheating it can still happen. It is a good idea to position the thermometer between the heat source and the eggs.
Anyway I hope things go ok, there is nothing you can do about mistakes if mistakes were made except learn from them.

I have no answer about placing them pointy side down or sideways except I doubt it will have been the reason but thats just my opinion

I also believe eggs can aborb days after experiencing bad conditions, for example if they get too cold for too long, the embrio might be able to survive the incident but then still die a couple days later so it can be hard to pinpoint the exact cause all the time except think about what one changed.

Like you said going from sideways to pointy side down was one change but you made a lot of changes, pretty much everything changed by swapping incubators.

they are both ok i think , one has a blood ring but is still moving around