English Shepherd, Scotch Collie, old farm collie/dog and everything in between

[ShrekDawg]

Well, the breeds were not selected for the EXACT same traits, just similar traits (because they were performing similar jobs in both England & Scotland). Their appearance is similar, but not the same. And Scotch Collies should look a lot like Rough Collies - basically, the Rough Collie is what was developed as certain breeders began selecting the Scotch Collie for show appearance and AKC guidelines. Rough Collies are much more closely related to Scotch Collies than are English Shepherds.

Hmm that's true too! And wow really? That's really interesting so I wonder if they did develop separately then? Or maybe one was used to form the other one