Eurasian Wigeon

[THunter]

Are these covered by Federal permit requirements since they do occassionally show up here in the wild??

 

[toejam]

Yes they are under the federal permit, and so are American widgeons. Chiloe widgeons arent though,

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yep, if it ever sets foot on the north american continent, it's on the list

 

[KansasKid]

just like bahama pintails or the white faced whistling duck?????

(white face was finally taken off though pretty sure)

 

[THunter]

I used to think I'd like to have native fowl (I have wood ducks and the 3-186 I got when I bought them years ago), however I'd like to raise some wild ducks to sale and don't want the Feds nosing around. Was thinking of some of the foreign ones. I like the ringed teal and some like those. The Chiloe wigeons look cool too. Think there's a market for breeding and selling non-natives?

 

[KansasKid]

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yup, there is a good number of people who either want them to breed or want them as "pets" (pretty to look at pets) and don't want the trouble of the forms and paper work.

 

[toejam]

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Yea, there is a decent sized market I think. I only look for foriegn species because I cant justify a $75 dollar a year permit to sell natives, and would assume there are a lotta people like me.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yes Hunter
there are just as many if not more species of forgein waterfowl and most are as if not more beautiful than ours. Most all of them especially the south american species also stay in full color year round too, which is a big plus when selling them.
Go to my migratory waterfowl thread. It's in the sticky section of the duck forum on here.
Some where about the middle of it, cant remember the exact page. But I have 2 post on there. 1 with all that do require the permit
1 with all that do not require the permit.

even with the permit, honestly it's not that big of a deal. $75 a year isnt all that, espcially when you consider what the bird you can keep for $75 sell for per pair.
Most all of them are over that per pair anyway, so sell 1 pair and your permit is covered.
usually unless they feel you are a crappy keeper, they only come once a year if that.
just send in your copies of the transfer paper 1 time every month and do that quick annual report of sells at the end of the year and that's it. No major invasion of privacy or any thing like that.
But many dont want to do that, so the non native works great.

By the way, even with those, you still have to be NPIP certified to sell them out of state
SO short and narrow of it is unless you can sell them all locally (which would be a miracle) , you STILL have to have the Feds come to your house and inspect them.
The NPIP is a disease prevention division, they can be way worse than the US Fish and Wild Life Service.

 

[Speceider]

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You have to realize that bahama pintails breed in a US Territory (Puerto Rico) and occasionally are observed in Florida. The species list covered by the MBTA are ones that have a history of occurrence of wild birds in North America. Baikals regularly are observed in Alaska, Euro wigeons may well be breeding in North America, barnacle geese are and historically have a regular occurrence in North America. BUT, there is a report of a red-crested pochard in a Baltimore Market in the 1800's, but they are not listed because of only 1 report. The list is to prevent the capture of wild birds.

Clint

 

[THunter]

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Thanks. I need to head over to Hahira some day to see how you are set up to handle all this. Do you sell birds out of state?