European Fibro Meat Bird Project

[Seidenhahn]

So far I have only heard about dwarf mothers animals in relations to Aviagen strains, specifically the strains from Hubbard. I do not know if the Ross 308 has dwarf mothers, but it seems unlikely from the literature and management guides. The Hubbard JA757 definitely does have dwarf mothers. I have heard some people on this forum mention dwarf animals before and being afraid to get it in their flock. I don't remember exactly but I think this was related mostly to ranger like birds, which are all Hubbard Stock (except for the ones called Sasso).

I would say try the Ross if you want and see for yourself if your male offspring get dwarf daughters. Do you feel like you know enough on how to raise them to adulthood? If you want any advice you can always ask here, and there are a few threads that were all about that.

Hello!
I have read here and there about growing fast growing boilers, but I can't say I KNOW how to do it because I lack the experience. If you have any concrete information + experience about this, please share it with us. Besides Ross 308, I have read that Cobb 500 could also be a good choice. What information do you have about Cobb 500? Thanks!

 

[Seidenhahn]

So far I have only heard about dwarf mothers animals in relations to Aviagen strains, specifically the strains from Hubbard. I do not know if the Ross 308 has dwarf mothers, but it seems unlikely from the literature and management guides. The Hubbard JA757 definitely does have dwarf mothers. I have heard some people on this forum mention dwarf animals before and being afraid to get it in their flock. I don't remember exactly but I think this was related mostly to ranger like birds, which are all Hubbard Stock (except for the ones called Sasso).

I would say try the Ross if you want and see for yourself if your male offspring get dwarf daughters. Do you feel like you know enough on how to raise them to adulthood? If you want any advice you can always ask here, and there are a few threads that were all about that.

My favorite is actually the so-called MONACO hybrid. But it is not easy to find outside of France. It has some special characteristics plus it lays quite a lot of eggs for a broiler. There is no information in English about this bird on google, but it...does exist!

 

[Skyeknight]

Hello!
I have read here and there about growing fast growing boilers, but I can't say I KNOW how to do it because I lack the experience. If you have any concrete information + experience about this, please share it with us. Besides Ross 308, I have read that Cobb 500 could also be a good choice. What information do you have about Cobb 500? Thanks!

The most important thing I will keep repeating everywhere is that you need to really reduce feed and let them outside. I do what to mention that I have never raised CX from day old chicks, mine are from a farm just before butchering day. A single CX here gets about 100 grams of layer feed in the morning and another 70 grams in the evening. Because they suffer from chronic hunger it's important they can hunt for bugs and eat grass outside every single day. Sadly I do have mine cooped up now due to a nationwide regulation, at first I didn't but because they stripped the run anyway I might as well keep them clean from their muddy run. This does mean I will have to feed them more vegetables and greens. But long story short a free feeding CX will be a dead bird after a few months.

I have no direct experience with Cobb 500, since the Dutch farmers have Aviagen strains. I have heard that they are less lazy compared to Ross 308 from multiple threads on this forum. But to be honest I think it's all in your management, I do not have problem with my Ross and they are just as active as my Hubbards.

My favorite is actually the so-called MONACO hybrid.

Oh very interesting! Never heard of this one. I really wish there was some kind of list with all the worldwide used strains, both past and present. But alas we really gotta search to even know about some of them.