extra vitamins for house silkies?

[ChicksNherps]

Both my friend and I have house silkies. Do we need to give them a vitamin d supplement since they are not out in the natural sunlight or is the amount in their food enough? I do give my chickens a poultry conditioner that contains Vit D.

This is what they are eating: http://blueseal.com/files/feeding-and-mgmt/equine/home-fresh-mf-starter-grower.pdf

And this is the conditioner: http://www.mannapro.com/products/poultry/conditioner/nutritional-information/

 

[JerseyGiantfolk]

Since they're house chickens, I would give them an extra boost of vitamins that ranging chickens get. You can give them Poly-vi-sol with no iron. Give .5mL of Poly-vi-sol per quart of water. You can find Poly-vi-sol at drugstores like Safeway, CVS, etc.

 

[ChicksNherps]

Since they're house chickens, I would give them an extra boost of vitamins that ranging chickens get. You can give them Poly-vi-sol with no iron. Give .5mL of Poly-vi-sol per quart of water. You can find Poly-vi-sol at drugstores like Safeway, CVS, etc.

Okay, what form does it come in? I have red cell I was giving them for showing and for keeping them fit through this very cold winter. Would this not be good since it has a lot of iron? I give it to my outdoor chickens once a week, just a small amount in their food.

 

[drumstick diva]

I know chicken folks always says to get polyvisol pediatric drops NO IRON, so I would think giving them 'red cell?' with lots of iron would be a bad thing. Do chickens even need iron supplements if they are not anemic??

 

[JerseyGiantfolk]

I know chicken folks always says to get polyvisol pediatric drops NO IRON, so I would think giving them 'red cell?' with lots of iron would be a bad thing. Do chickens even need iron supplements if they are not anemic??

Since chickens are such small critters, too much iron can be toxic to them. There's already iron supplemented into their feed.

 

[Chris09]

A little red cell go's a long way, as for using poylvisol I have never used it just because there are far better products out there that are for poultry use.

I myself use Rooster Booster Poultry Cell, http://www.roosterboosterproducts.com/product/50401
"It provides vitamins A, D, E and essential B-vitamins, along with 400 mg. of bio-available iron and other necessary minerals per fluid ounce.


Copper (Cu) 44 mg.
Cobalt (Co) 2 mg.
Magnesium (Mg) 20 mg.
Manganese (mn) 39 mg.
Zinc (Zn) 110 mg.
Selenium (Se) 0.25 mg.
Vitamin A 26,000 I.U.
Vitamin D-3 3,500 I.U.
Vitamin E 50 I.U.
Vitamin B-12 60 mcg.
Menadione (Vitamin K-3) 2.5 mg.
Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2) 28 mg.
Pyridoxine (Vitamin B-6) 10 mg.
Folic Acid 10 mg.
d-Panthothenic Acid 50 mg.
Niacinamide 50 mg.
Thiamine (Vitamin B-1) 60 mg.
Amino Acid Profile - Per Ounce
Alanine 47.5 mg.
Arginine 76 mg.
Aspartic Acid 78 mg.
Cystine 21 mg.
Glutamic Acid 166.5 mg.
Glycine 39.5 mg.
Histidine 21 mg.
Isoleucine 36 mg.
Lysine 19.5 mg.
Methionine 20 mg.
Phenyla Lanine 46 mg.
Proline 46.5 mg.
Serine 46.5 mg.
Threonine 33.5 mg.
Tryptophan 9.5 mg.
Tyrosine 46.5 mg.
Valine 54.5 mg.


Chris

 

[ChicksNherps]

A little red cell go's a long way, as for using poylvisol I have never used it just because there are far better products out there that are for poultry use.

I myself use Rooster Booster Poultry Cell, http://www.roosterboosterproducts.com/product/50401
"It provides vitamins A, D, E and essential B-vitamins, along with 400 mg. of bio-available iron and other necessary minerals per fluid ounce.


Copper (Cu) 44 mg.
Cobalt (Co) 2 mg.
Magnesium (Mg) 20 mg.
Manganese (mn) 39 mg.
Zinc (Zn) 110 mg.
Selenium (Se) 0.25 mg.
Vitamin A 26,000 I.U.
Vitamin D-3 3,500 I.U.
Vitamin E 50 I.U.
Vitamin B-12 60 mcg.
Menadione (Vitamin K-3) 2.5 mg.
Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2) 28 mg.
Pyridoxine (Vitamin B-6) 10 mg.
Folic Acid 10 mg.
d-Panthothenic Acid 50 mg.
Niacinamide 50 mg.
Thiamine (Vitamin B-1) 60 mg.
Amino Acid Profile - Per Ounce
Alanine 47.5 mg.
Arginine 76 mg.
Aspartic Acid 78 mg.
Cystine 21 mg.
Glutamic Acid 166.5 mg.
Glycine 39.5 mg.
Histidine 21 mg.
Isoleucine 36 mg.
Lysine 19.5 mg.
Methionine 20 mg.
Phenyla Lanine 46 mg.
Proline 46.5 mg.
Serine 46.5 mg.
Threonine 33.5 mg.
Tryptophan 9.5 mg.
Tyrosine 46.5 mg.
Valine 54.5 mg.


Chris

Thanks! I checked over the difference between red cell and poultry cell when I got it and I think it was the same but the red cell was a better value for the amount.

 

[ChicksNherps]

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Each Each
Lb. Contains Fluid Ounce
Not Less Than: Contains:
Iron (Fe) 9,400 ppm 4,250.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . 300 mg
Copper (Cu) 1,100 ppm 500.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . . 36 mg
Cobalt (Co) 60 ppm 28.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . . . 2 mg
Potassium (K) 0.31% 1,400.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . 100 mg
Sulfur (S) 0.9% 0.78% 3,550.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . 250 mg
Magnesium (Mg) 0.06% 280.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . . 20 mg
Manganese (Mn) 1,200 ppm 540.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . . 39 mg
Zinc (Zn) 3,400 ppm 1,540.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . 110 mg
Iodine (I) 8 ppm 3.6 mg . . . . . . . . . 0.25 mg
Selenium (Se) 20 ppm 9.0 mg . . . . . . . . . 0.65 mg
Vitamin A 356,923.0 I.U. . . . . . . . 25,000 I.U.
Vitamin D-3 49,969.0 I.U. . . . . . . . . 3,500 I.U.
Vitamin E 500.0 I.U. . . . . . . . . . . 35 I.U.
Vitamin B12 1,680 mcg. . . . . . . . . 120 mcg
Thiamine 428.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . . 30 mg
Riboflavin 356.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . . 25 mg
Vitamin B6 114.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . . . 8 mg
Menadione 35.0 mg . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 mg
Folic Acid 100.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . . . 7 mg
Biotin 0.285 mg . . . . . . . . 0.020 mg
Choline 2,855 mg. . . . . . . . . . 200 mg
d-Pantothenic Acid 685.0 mg. . . . . . . . . . . 48 mg

 

[Chris09]

ChicksNherps,
Here is a side-by-side of Red Cell and Poultry Cell. To me Poultry Cell is much better than Red Cell.

Ingredients Red Cell Poultry Cell

Iron (Fe) 300mg 400mg
Copper (Cu) 36mg 44mg
Cobalt (Co) 2mg 2mg
Potassium (K) 100mg 0mg
Sulfur (S) 250mg 0mg
Magnesium (Mg) 20mg 20mg
Manganese (mn) 39mg 39mg
Zinc (Zn) 110mg 110mg
Iodine (I) 0.26mg 0mg
Selenium (Se) 0.65mg 0.25mg
Vitamin A 25,000 I.U. 26,000 I.U.
Vitamin D-3 3,500 I.U. 3,500 I.U.
Vitamin E 35 I.U. 50 I.U.
Vitamin B-12 120mcg 60mcg
Thiamin (vit. B-1) 30mg 60mg
Riboflavin (vit. B-2) 25mg 28mg
Pyridoxine (vit. B-6) 8mg 10mg
Menadione (vit. K-3) 2.5mg 2.5mg
Folic Acid 7mg 10mg
Biotin 0.020mg 0mg
Choline 200mg 0mg
d-Pantothenic Acid 48mg 50mg
Niacinamide 0mg 50mg

Amino Acids Red Cell Poultry Cell

Alanine 0mg 47.5mg
Arginine 0mg 76mg
Aspartic Acid 0mg 78mg
Cystine 0mg 21mg
Glutamic Acid 0mg 166.5mg
Glycine 0mg 39.5mg
Histidine 0mg 21mg
Isoleucine 0mg 36mg
Lysine 0mg 19.5mg
Methionine 0mg 20mg
Phenyla Lanine 0mg 46mg
Proline 0mg 46.5mg
Serine 0mg 46.5mg
Threonine 0mg 33.5mg
Tryptophan 0mg 9.5mg
Tyrosine 0mg 46.5mg
Valine 0mg 54.5mg


Chris

 

[SamanthaBrooke]

ChicksNherps,
Here is a side-by-side of Red Cell and Poultry Cell. To me Poultry Cell is much better than Red Cell.

Ingredients Red Cell Poultry Cell

Iron (Fe) 300mg 400mg
Copper (Cu) 36mg 44mg
Cobalt (Co) 2mg 2mg
Potassium (K) 100mg 0mg
Sulfur (S) 250mg 0mg
Magnesium (Mg) 20mg 20mg
Manganese (mn) 39mg 39mg
Zinc (Zn) 110mg 110mg
Iodine (I) 0.26mg 0mg
Selenium (Se) 0.65mg 0.25mg
Vitamin A 25,000 I.U. 26,000 I.U.
Vitamin D-3 3,500 I.U. 3,500 I.U.
Vitamin E 35 I.U. 50 I.U.
Vitamin B-12 120mcg 60mcg
Thiamin (vit. B-1) 30mg 60mg
Riboflavin (vit. B-2) 25mg 28mg
Pyridoxine (vit. B-6) 8mg 10mg
Menadione (vit. K-3) 2.5mg 2.5mg
Folic Acid 7mg 10mg
Biotin 0.020mg 0mg
Choline 200mg 0mg
d-Pantothenic Acid 48mg 50mg
Niacinamide 0mg 50mg

Amino Acids Red Cell Poultry Cell

Alanine 0mg 47.5mg
Arginine 0mg 76mg
Aspartic Acid 0mg 78mg
Cystine 0mg 21mg
Glutamic Acid 0mg 166.5mg
Glycine 0mg 39.5mg
Histidine 0mg 21mg
Isoleucine 0mg 36mg
Lysine 0mg 19.5mg
Methionine 0mg 20mg
Phenyla Lanine 0mg 46mg
Proline 0mg 46.5mg
Serine 0mg 46.5mg
Threonine 0mg 33.5mg
Tryptophan 0mg 9.5mg
Tyrosine 0mg 46.5mg
Valine 0mg 54.5mg


Chris

Beautiful comparison! Would this be recommended to be given to chickens that don't get to free range?
My chickens are in a large horse stall with windows but again do not get to forage, they are fed Purina SunFresh Layena and SunFresh Flock Block that has oyster shell and grit.