Falling over and poop

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by dskullz, Aug 19, 2018.

  1. dskullz

    dskullz In the Brooder

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    I had 3 chickens go to a show. 2 came home just fine. We checked out Saturday night and on Monday my Araucana started having problems (so it will be a week tomorrow that she's been sick). She's about 18 weeks but she hasn't laid yet (just throwing that in in case it could be egg binding on her first egg?? She doesn't really seem like she's trying to push anything but symptoms could possibly fit...maybe?) . Sleeping a lot. She was still eating and drinking on her own until 2 days ago. She could stand but was just stumbling trying walking around. Her poop was very green and was coming out with a lot of liquid. She's been fluffed up and just seems miserable.
    I've been giving her nutri-drench, electrolytes, and probiotics. And feeding her egg yolks along with her chick feed. I've been soaking her in epsom salt baths, they don't seem to be helping but she seems to enjoy them so I've continued those.
    Someone suggested to me it was sub-clinical coccidiosis and to start her on corid. I did that Friday and now she's not pooping at all, it's just like liquidy whiteish-yellow stuff and she doesn't want to eat and I'm having to dip her beak to get her to drink. She's falling over to her right side and in is even sleeping leaning against the cage to prop her up. She's shaking her head a lot more now too and still just fluffed up all the time.

    I've been combing the chicken health handbook and it just sounds like everything and nothing and I just don't have the experience to know what I'm looking for!

    SO what does this sound like to you? Would you continue the corid (this just doesn't seem like cocci to me but I don't know). What else can I do to help her? Should I try calcium or does this not sound like egg binding will it hurt her if it's not egg binding? Or if there is nothing to be done what can I do to make her more comfortable or at what point should I just put her down because she's so miserable? :hit
    Thank you for any help!
     
  2. Wyorp Rock

    Wyorp Rock Crossing the Road

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    IF possible, take a stool sample to your vet for testing - have a fecal float and gram stain.
    How long many days were you at the show?

    Treating her for Coccidiosis won't hurt her, but if you are giving Corid, then lay off the vitamins and electrolytes until you finish the course of treatment.

    Not pooping much at all, I would be lean toward a blockage "somewhere". Check her crop-what is that like? Is it completely empty in the morning before she eats/drinks?

    It's also possible she may be struggling with a disease like Marek's. Often the disease will present itself during times of stress - traveling, disturbances, coming into lay, etc. are all stressful on birds.
     
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  3. dskullz

    dskullz In the Brooder

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    Thanks. I don't have a vet nearby that will see chickens but I'll call and see if they will do the tests.
    Her crop is emptying.
    She was at the show for 3 days- so it doesn't make sense that she would have picked up Marek's there. If she already had it though and is now showing symptoms that means my whole flock has been exposed and I exposed all the chickens at the show, right? That sucks- I'll feel so terrible if that's what it is.
     
  4. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Crossing the Road

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    It takes at least 3 weeks for Mareks to show up once the chicken is exposed, so impossible the she picked up Mareks at the show. If that is the problem, they were exposed at home. I would probably continue the Corid for 5 days treatment, especially since it is not hard on chickens, but also because coccidiosis can be common disease for a chicken with immunity problems to get. Mareks can cause poor immunity. If you see a vet, they might suggest an antibiotic. Mareks testing is best done after death, when the state vet or poultry lab can do testing on feather shafts or any tumor tissue in organs. If you lose her, get a necropsy by the state vet. I really hope that Mareks is not the problem, and she gets over her illness. Here is some reading about Mareks and a link for your state vet:
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/the-great-big-giant-mareks-disease-faq.66077/

    http://www.metzerfarms.com/PoultryLabs.cfm
     
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