Favorite EE had wing ripped off by predator. Recommendations to prevent infection?

[m1chelle1]

Idk if people just didn’t read my post, but I definitely can’t afford a vet. Just wanted to remind everyone. If I could, she would have been there days ago.
thanks

 

[AngBantamLuv]

Idk if people just didn’t read my post, but I definitely can’t afford a vet. Just wanted to remind everyone. If I could, she would have been there days ago.
thanks

I understand... not sure if you just saw my post (previous to this one) but the bone is attached like a knuckle.. just cartilage holding it on. If you can have someone hold her down and put pressure on the surrounding area, you should be able to quickly twist-twist- twist and pull, very fast itll pop off.

So sorry, i know this is hard.

 

[m1chelle1]

I understand... not sure if you just saw my post (previous to this one) but the bone is attached like a knuckle.. just cartilage holding it on. If you can have someone hold her down and put pressure on the surrounding area, you should be able to quickly twist-twist- twist and pull, very fast itll pop off.

So sorry, i know this is hard.

It is, thank you. Yeah idk if I can bring myself to do that, but I may try to snip the bone back at some point. She seems to be doing very well as she is, so I’m trying to let her recover a bit before doing something like this just yet

 

[Kessel23]

I had a dog rip the wing off of one of my roosters last August. There was about an inch of bone remaining. There was also several shards of bone stuck into the surrounding muscle. I flushed it out with a saline solution then I used a scalpel to remove the remaining bone and severed muscle. Then I flushed it out again and stitched it shut. That was unnecessary though the bird pulled the stitches out the next day. A large black scab formed over the entire injury and it took 4 months to heal.
Here he was last August-

Here is everything I removed from him.

Here it is stitched up.

And here he is that December. To bad I did not take any pictures in between. I didn't have to medicate him at all, birds immune systems seem to be a lot stronger than humans and mammals. It was lat in the summer when the injury happened but there was still flies. I put him in a crate with a fan pointing right at him to keep any flies away. It seems like the nervous system gets overloaded on birds when they get an injury like this. I don't actually know but they just have no reaction to the cuts and stitching on the spot where the main injury is. But then will have reactions if you go poking around on the other side of their body. If I had to guess I would say their nervous system gets overloaded when something like this happens and they just don't feel pain in that area until a day or two afterwards. I have noticed they have reactions when I would try to look at their injury and how it was healing.
We had a duck get her wing broken by a fox and we amputated the entire thing, during the surgery she just stood on the table we didn't even need to hold her. We put a dish with water and some food in it in front of her and she started to play in it and eat the pellets as we were cutting her wing off. She didnt flinch the entire time. At the end of it we accidentally cut a small blood vessel that was deeper inside the injury and she did have a reaction to that. That duck made a full recovery too but we made the mistake of leaving some of the bone in her and so it didnt heal and we had to go back and open it up and remove it a few days later.
I'm not sure what I would do in your situation or how the bird is acting but if that bone stays in there with a sharp edge and you can't get skin to regrow over it then it probably won't heal. With the duck we left about an inch in her but we smoothed it down so it had no sharp edge.

 

[m1chelle1]

I sure hope you never have someone hold you down, put pressure on the surrounding area and quickly twist and pull (very fast) until your arm "pops off" for any reason..

Although I appreciate your concern for the techniques that have been suggested, The techniques are ones that would ultimately help an otherwise "dead" animal. Please put your feelings aside and refrain from commenting so that I can filter through the helpful comments more easily for the sake of my chicken. Thank you

 

[Swbertrand1]

Although I appreciate your concern for the techniques that have been suggested, The techniques are ones that would ultimately help an otherwise "dead" animal. Please put your feelings aside and refrain from commenting so that I can filter through the helpful comments more easily for the sake of my chicken. Thank you

I'm not sure you do appreciate my concern if you think "helpful" is twisting a limb off of an animal...

 

[Kessel23]

I'm not sure you do appreciate my concern if you think "helpful" is twisting a limb off of an animal...

I think it would be better to use a scalpel and cut the tendons where it connects. Either way it is going to have to be removed for the bird to survive.

 

[humblehillsfarm]

Although I appreciate your concern for the techniques that have been suggested, The techniques are ones that would ultimately help an otherwise "dead" animal. Please put your feelings aside and refrain from commenting so that I can filter through the helpful comments more easily for the sake of my chicken. Thank you

You can hide someone’s comments. If I were you I’d hide this persons..... it’ll clean up the thread for you. I feel bad enough for continuing to converse with them, but I strongly disagree with their opinion Your girl clearly wants to be with her flock and it’s motivated to live as much as you are motivated to help her. I think you have to go to their profile to hide them. Imagine if every time an injured person is unconscious (as in can’t give consent like an animal cannot give consent) we just kill them because we “don’t want to leave them in pain.” Smh.

As for waiting for her to recover further, I would not. Recovery will reach a point where it probably won’t progress and I feel this would just be extending that recovery period. She is clearly not in shock now if she is active with her flock. I can’t honestly suggest the best way for trimming bone. However from butchering chickens I do know that cutting out the joints has been much easier than cutting through bone, at least when my only tool is a boning knife. I am sure there are more effective tools for cutting through bone.

 

[Happy hen lover]

I suggest packing any open wounds with either sugar or honey then wrap the wound up well. It is called a sugar wrap, and what sugar/honey does is draws the moisture out of bacteria which inhibits its ability to reproduce. There is a channel on Youtube called Vetranch and what they do is take in dogs from shelters that have really bad wounds and fix them up and adopt them out. on their channel was a dog with a rather large wound on its neck just gapping open and the vet took sugar and packed the wound full and then wrapped the wound up and over time the wound closed without sutures. The video that shows it is titled "how is this dog still alive" if you want to see the process yourself.

Also these threads might be of some help to you
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...-off-by-bobcat-help-graphic-pictures.1421731/
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...had-wing-ripped-off-graphic-pictures.1429383/

First is someone asking the same question as you and the second is the update to the roosters situation. it was a rooster who had his wing ripped off by a bobcat. it might have some useful info for you.

I have read about sugar in wounds, seems so odd to me but it was on a prepper site! So it must work.

 

[Happy hen lover]

How is your hen doing girl?