Feather sexing ambiguity

[obscurebit]

So i have 7 brown quail and i believe i can tell the sex by now, they are about 3 weeks and some old, but i am not an expert on this area of sexing birds so i was hoping to get some help.

So to me the first 3 look like males and im leaning towards females on the next 4, the 4th one im like 99.9% sure female, the last 3 have a little bit of coloring on the chest but the dots tell me female.

now the rest of the bunch i dont really know, ill have to vent sex soon as i have heard some male crowing so they should be mature but still no eggs, and they are
Not brown type, i believe Rosetta or tibetan on some, first time i have these kind.

 

[Nabiki]

1, 2, 3 are male
4, 5, 6 are female
7 is male
8, 9, 11 are not feather sexable
10 has clear crescents on the face and some spots on the chest, so I'm leaning towards female, but am not 100% sure.

 

[obscurebit]

1, 2, 3 are male
4, 5, 6 are female
7 is male
8, 9, 11 are not feather sexable
10 has clear crescents on the face and some spots on the chest, so I'm leaning towards female, but am not 100% sure.

Awwww damn, i was hoping 7 was just a rusty chested female, way too many males i apreciate your insights, now i can start planning what to do with all these extra males, if you dont mind me asking, i know you are pretty knowledgeable on quails so i was wondering if you could tell me, what are 8,9,11?

The seller did not specify, rosetta? Tibetan?

 

[Nabiki]

8 looks like grau fee, 9 I'm not sure. Some kind of mix. 11 looks like a rosetta.

 

[obscurebit]

8 looks like grau fee, 9 I'm not sure. Some kind of mix. 11 looks like a rosetta.

Grau fee! Awesome.

I forgot to post 3 more i have, that are like the grau fee but have a little white under the chest and on their necks, they actually look a lot like the grau fee pics ive seen that other people have.

quick question, would i get some tux from breeding these quails? Possibly some sparkly and pansy?

I'll try to take some pics later on and upload them.

Mine looks really close to this picture i found on the forums here, i dont know if this is considered tux.

I really want some autumn embers...
Also thanks for all your help.

 

[Nabiki]

That white splash is not uncommon. If you breed a white one into the line you have a pretty good chance of tux.

 

[Susan Skylark]

You need English/dotted white for tuxedos. The white splotches seem to be fairly common on Rosettas without carrying a white gene. There is also a pied wing white that is similar to tuxedo in homozygous form but gives random white splotches in hetero.

 

[obscurebit]

So only way to get tux is adding whites? Well maybe down the line then. Thanks for all the help.