FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

[Bridebeliever]

I did an interesting "ferment"...okay, really it doesn't qualify as a ferment, but the chooks LOVED IT! I have several 32oz. containers of greek yogurt that are 2 months past the "BEST BY" date but not moldy (really I could eat it too but I'm not doing dairy right now). Anyway, I mixed their feed into this yogurt till it was fermented feed consistency, then refrigerated overnight, then added warm water in the morning to bring it back to fermented feed consistency. Well, they went buggy over it! I suppose it's very good for them as well! Oh yes, I added flax seeds too, yes, they are spoiled, but then so am I cause their eggs are DELISH!

 

[chitownhens]

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I have learned to gather much of what I know from books whenever possible. You would think that by consuming so much cholesterol not only from all those eggs but also from the additional beef liver, etc that I consume that I would somehow be a heart attack waiting to happen. But if you read enough well researched material on cholesterol in the way of several dozen books over the years you come to realize it's not true and that so many are making so much money from demonizing cholesterol that the egg has become an unfortunate casualty. You also then come to the conclusion that much of the rest of the information many are conditioned to believe is also not true. At 53 I look at my peers and I would consider myself in the upper percentile in health, strength and stamina

Additionally what I like about eggs outside of them being delicious is that as far as proteins go they are not only the highest rated in bioavailability but they are the lowest on the insulin index and the less insulin your body needs to produce the better health you will have long term. Helps to keep bodyfat levels low too as a bonus.

Eating a couple dozen eggs is not unusual for me and although it may sound strange sometimes even more.............I'm into the health thing and that is partly why I raise hens and feeding the hens fermented feed helps to keep them healthy too.

 

[jerrey]

I did an interesting "ferment"...okay, really it doesn't qualify as a ferment, but the chooks LOVED IT! I have several 32oz. containers of greek yogurt that are 2 months past the "BEST BY" date but not moldy (really I could eat it too but I'm not doing dairy right now). Anyway, I mixed their feed into this yogurt till it was fermented feed consistency, then refrigerated overnight, then added warm water in the morning to bring it back to fermented feed consistency. Well, they went buggy over it! I suppose it's very good for them as well! Oh yes, I added flax seeds too, yes, they are spoiled, but then so am I cause their eggs are DELISH!

that is pretty good

 

[aart]

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I have learned to gather much of what I know from books whenever possible. You would think that by consuming so much cholesterol not only from all those eggs but also from the additional beef liver, etc that I consume that I would somehow be a heart attack waiting to happen. But if you read enough well researched material on cholesterol in the way of several dozen books over the years you come to realize it's not true and that so many are making so much money from demonizing cholesterol that the egg has become an unfortunate casualty. You also then come to the conclusion that much of the rest of the information many are conditioned to believe is also not true. At 53 I look at my peers and I would consider myself in the upper percentile in health, strength and stamina

Additionally what I like about eggs outside of them being delicious is that as far as proteins go they are not only the highest rated in bioavailability but they are the lowest on the insulin index and the less insulin your body needs to produce the better health you will have long term. Helps to keep bodyfat levels low too as a bonus.

Eating a couple dozen eggs is not unusual for me and although it may sound strange sometimes even more.............I'm into the health thing and that is partly why I raise hens and feeding the hens fermented feed helps to keep them healthy too.

Ah, well, that explains it.

Wasn't thinking of the cholesterol (never really bought 'eggs are bad for cholesterol' thing anyway),
just that that's a lot of one food to consume every day.

I love eggs for flavor as well as an animal protein,
but I would get sick of them pretty darn quick if I ate that many,
and prefer moderation and variety in foods/nutrition.

 

[chitownhens]

aart..............oh I see what you are saying.............yes for I can eat the same thing day in and day out for years and really enjoy it. It doesn't benefit me in being able to see what type of effect a food may have on my performance when I do add something new.

 

[knjinnm]

I always enjoyed liver and onions until a biologist mentioned liver is a filter the body uses to get rid of impurities.

 

[Beekissed]

Have no fear....it doesn't store the impurities, just removes them from the blood and deposits them into something else so they can be excreted...and that excretion is ongoing, as is the sorting, so at any given time the liver has few actual toxins...and if you were to ingest said toxins, your liver would sort them out for you.

 

[aart]

Have no fear....it doesn't store the impurities, just removes them from the blood and deposits them into something else so they can be excreted...and that excretion is ongoing, as is the sorting, so at any given time the liver has few actual toxins...and if you were to ingest said toxins, your liver would sort them out for you.

Yep....
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0072577/
Still don't care to eat liver tho.

 

[TNBielefelder]

if you boil tap water on the stove will it remove the chemicals harmful to fermentation?

 

[chitownhens]

I only consume 100% pastured raised beef liver...........no hormones.............no antibiotics............and I know my farmers including eggs that I purchase outside of the ones my hens produce. The farmer that raises the hens follows Joe Salatins method of rotating from pasture to pasture following the cows while also feeding the hens an organic soy free feed.

Liver is considered a performance food and I can absolutely attest to that as I run sprints daily and there is definitely a difference in overall stamina. Carnivores in general go for the organ meats first as that is where the most nutrient dense calories are located. Personally I have found that how the food is raised matters and including fermented feed for hens makes sense to me. Not only for the probiotics but the nutrients in the feed itself becomes more bioavailable in it's predigested form..............at least in my opinion that makes complete sense.

I'm am fairly new to raising hens about 2 years now and my knowledge base can't compare to many here I'm sure. So I can live with being corrected along the way and hopefully learning something too.