FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

[subhanalah]

Has anyone dealt with or heard of  Lymphoid Leukosis? This is the preliminary finding from the lab on examining organs from my rooster who died yesterday. It's related to Marek's. 

Izzy's liver was huge and his heart had ruptured. I euthanized him yesterday when he couldn't seem to be able to breathe. I drove his body to the lab, almost 100 miles away, this morning, desperate for a reason for this illness that seems to be bringing down members of my flock. 

At least FF can be completely ruled out as a cause for this. I never even gave it a thought, tell you the truth. The lab is still working on isolating a specific disease in the lymphoid group. 

So, anyone ever dealt with this? Is there a cure? Sounds like my entire flock may be carrying it, even though they're asymptomatic at present.

what an incredible diagnosis. I'm so sorry to hear this, but from what I read/hear, Marek's is pretty common.

At least now you know and knowing is definitely empowering.

 

[LindaB220]

Has anyone dealt with or heard of Lymphoid Leukosis? This is the preliminary finding from the lab on examining organs from my rooster who died yesterday. It's related to Marek's.

Izzy's liver was huge and his heart had ruptured. I euthanized him yesterday when he couldn't seem to be able to breathe. I drove his body to the lab, almost 100 miles away, this morning, desperate for a reason for this illness that seems to be bringing down members of my flock.

At least FF can be completely ruled out as a cause for this. I never even gave it a thought, tell you the truth. The lab is still working on isolating a specific disease in the lymphoid group.

So, anyone ever dealt with this? Is there a cure? Sounds like my entire flock may be carrying it, even though they're asymptomatic at present.

I am so sorry to hear this. Marek's . Isn't that what Corid is used for? You could do a dose for everybody. . After you hear back from the lab. Keep us in the loop.

 

[subhanalah]

I am so sorry to hear this.   Marek's .   Isn't that what Corid is used for?   You could do a dose for everybody.  .   After you hear  back from the lab.  Keep us in the loop. 

No, unfortunately it is not that simple. There is no treatment.

 

[LindaB220]

No, unfortunately it is not that simple. There is no treatment.

Oooooooo. Bummer, I'm sorry to hear that.

 

[OrganicChicken]

started my first batch of FF last night, let the food soak overnight.... fed this morning, don't think it had fermented yet, but the girls loved the soaked food. Today, I added some back to the jar, and some more water, now its bubbling, and looks like its fermenting, also the level of water and food kept rising, so I put half in another jar. How long will it stay good for once fermented? It's just Scratch and Feed Grower formula with R/O water, no added ingredients.

 

[Tikkijane]

I am so sorry to hear this.   Marek's .   Isn't that what Corid is used for?   You could do a dose for everybody.  .   After you hear  back from the lab.  Keep us in the loop. 

No. Corid is amprolium, which is for cocci.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

The only defenses against Marek's is vaccinating in-ovo, as newly hatched or breeding for natural resistance.

 

[aatx]

I'm really having trouble this summer with the FF. It turns into rock hard clumps, even in the bucket by about the 3rd day. I've tried different lids/towels, mixing it drier to start, etc. It won't stay crumbly or moist, no matter what I change. The only thing I haven't done is keep it wetter. The chicks graze all day long and eat insects and stuff, so they don't run over and eat it all at one time. They take a few bites, go off to eat some grass, etc. I got rid of 6 roosters, so I am down to 11 chickens now (11 week old bantams) and I only give them about 2 cups of food per day. The clumps get rock hard - I can't break them up with my fingers at all. Yesterday I added water to what was left of the FF to start a new batch. Even after about 10 minutes of soaking, it required plenty of effort to mash up the clumps. I just poured up the last of my original bag of starter. I've got a bag of Flock Raiser that I'll use next. Just for grins, I'm going to try keeping this current batch wetter and see what effect it has.

If I could keep it inside, I think it would be fine, but I'm even getting a lot of flack of having it outside because it smells so bad.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Try keeping it cooler.

 

[aatx]

Try keeping it cooler.

I don't have anywhere to keep it cooler. That's the problem. I've already got it under the big equipment shed in front of a round bale so it gets no direct sun. It's shaded the entire day where it is and it certainly cooler than anywhere else outside. Inside is a big no. The Texas heat may just be too much for it.