itsjustjen I found a really easy way to feed the chicks without them spilling it all over. I have a big brooder so i put a new paint roller pan in the brooder and put the food in that they stand and kick it but it stays in the pan I have noticed I am not wasting as much starter as before. I got mine at the dollar tree they make perfect water bowls for ducklings as well the ducklings can walk in and out and still "swim"