Foam incubator woes and fixes

WalnutHill

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After losing almost half my set turkey eggs to various foam incubator temperature malfunctions over the past two months (running a rock steady 99 then spike to 104 overnight, running steady 99 then dropping to 95 for no apparent reason) I finally bought a pair of STC-1000 Microcomputer temperature controllers off of Amazon.

While the documentation is a little user unfriendly, the concept is simple and the performance is excellent. The STC-1000 has two relays, one that kicks on a cooling cycle, the other kicks on heating cycle. I bought the "110V AC" model. Here's how it is wired:

I took an old cheap extension cord and cut it in half. On the plug end, I traced the wires to identify the hot and neutral leads. I attached the hot to pin 2 on the STC-1000, and also a short jumper wire. I attached the neutral to pin 1 on the STC-1000, and also a long white wire.

The long white wire runs to a receptacle in an electrical box, to the silver terminals. This provides unbroken neutral.

The short jumper wire runs from pin 2 to pin 5. This provides power to the heat relay.

A long black jumper wire runs from pin 6 to the receptacle in an electrical box, to the gold terminals. This provides relay switched power.

The thermal sensor attaches to pins 3 and 4. I taped this into an empty pill bottle at middle of egg height. The bottle creates a still air pocket that prevents excess switching.

The adjustment knob on the Little Giant incubator control is turned all the way up (hottest). On/off is now controlled by the STC-1000.

The Little Giant cord is plugged into the receptacle.

The STC-1000 should be installed in a project box with properly secured and wired electrical connections.

I set the F1 temperature control to 37.5C. I set the differential to .3C. I left the compressor delay and calibration at default.

After 20 minutes the incubator was up to temperature and the STC-1000 switched to "Cool" mode. Since nothing is connected to the leads for the cooling relay, the temperature just drifts down naturally. I am thinking about putting either a fan or a more rapid egg turner on the Cool terminals.

When the temperature drops to 37.2C, the heating element turns on and remains on until 37.5 is reached. Since the element continues to hold heat for a few minutes after power is removed, the temp will reach 38C or a little more before it coasts down again.

This controller is MUCH more stable and does not need constant recalibration due to ambient room temps or developing chicks. I am now confident that I could build a nice coolerbator or other homemade incubator and have good success too, if I used larger heating elements.

After I was done building this, I realized I could have just used the receptacle end of the extension cable instead of using a receptacle box. I will do that with the next one.
 
That's a good idea. I know the controller your talking about.Id like to see a pic of hooked up if you get the chance. Also this one dosnt require an SSR relay?
 
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This model has the solid state relays built in, rated at 10A switching. I have not yet bought an enclosure (wanted to test it out first) so it's "built" in the box it came in. I will finish it up when the eggs hatch (this is my hatcher) and wire it properly with a fused input for safety in a proper plastic project box.


Please do this part safely...this was just set up for testing. White wire to silver (neutral), black wire to brass (hot). Since there is no ground, this should be a two wire polarized receptacle. The other end of the extension cord would have been more convenient.


Easy terminal layout. 5-6 is heat relay, 7-8 is cool relay. Simply jump power from hot (1 or 2) to 5 for heat, 7 for cool. When the sensor threshold is reached, the relay will actuate and provide power to the device connected to 6 or 8.



Although there is a nice little wiring raceway, this is AC current and unfused. Please don't leave this exposed. I am going to rebuild this in an enclosed project box for safety, with a fused hot on input.



From the front, nothing simpler. All programming is done with 4 buttons. There is an indicator for heat relay active and cool relay active. In this photo, no relays are active, it was in the middle of the temperature differential. It will be a lot nicer in a project box attached with Velcro to the side of the hatcher.
 
Update: I wired up the second controller last night. Now my incubator and hatcher are both connected to STC-1000 controllers, one set at 37C and one at 38C. Only minor calibration between controller and thermometer was needed, less than a degree on each. Now my temperature varies less than half a degree overall. Not shown (as it does not connect to the controller) is earth ground from 3 wire power cord to receptacle ground terminal. Two circles represent a standard 15A receptacle. If you wish to use for just heat or just cool, use as is and only connect terminal 6 OR terminal 8, not both. If you want the option of powering a heating element or lamp from the heat relay, and a fan or warning lamp on the cool relay, break the brass bridge between the two brass screws on the receptacle.

Here is the wiring diagram:


Here is the assembled box. Not pretty, but fully functional:
 
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Update: I wired up the second controller last night. Now my incubator and hatcher are both connected to STC-1000 controllers, one set at 37C and one at 38C. Only minor calibration between controller and thermometer was needed, less than a degree on each. Now my temperature varies less than half a degree overall. Not shown (as it does not connect to the controller) is earth ground from 3 wire power cord to receptacle ground terminal. Two circles represent a standard 15A receptacle. If you wish to use for just heat or just cool, use as is and only connect terminal 6 OR terminal 8, not both. If you want the option of powering a heating element or lamp from the heat relay, and a fan or warning lamp on the cool relay, break the brass bridge between the two brass screws on the receptacle. Here is the wiring diagram: Here is the assembled box. Not pretty, but fully functional:
Yep you did good. I worked for GE and we used to use PID's for voltage and current limiters. I made a Cooler bator and used a AC 110V Digital All-Purpose Fahrenheit Temperature Controller Thermostat Sensor which I have adjusted between 99 and 100 degree F. I am using two 50W@110V CERAMIC HEAT EMITTER BROODER INFRARED LAMP BULB REPTILE PET COOP instead of light bulbs. I bought a Brand new Coleman Extreme 5 cooler from wal mart and a couple of plexiglass panes for windows. A few other goodies all in all it cost me less than $100.00 . My original BRAND NEW HOVA-BATOR INCUBATOR 1602N I will be using as a hatcher and I will be using a PID for temperature control on that also. Simular to your set up. I dont know how I did it, but I lost my editor bar on my posts so I am SOL posting pictures. Dennis I would love to post pictures on here, but I don't know how about doing it.
 
Update: I wired up the second controller last night. Now my incubator and hatcher are both connected to STC-1000 controllers, one set at 37C and one at 38C. Only minor calibration between controller and thermometer was needed, less than a degree on each. Now my temperature varies less than half a degree overall. Not shown (as it does not connect to the controller) is earth ground from 3 wire power cord to receptacle ground terminal. Two circles represent a standard 15A receptacle. If you wish to use for just heat or just cool, use as is and only connect terminal 6 OR terminal 8, not both. If you want the option of powering a heating element or lamp from the heat relay, and a fan or warning lamp on the cool relay, break the brass bridge between the two brass screws on the receptacle.

Here is the wiring diagram:


Here is the assembled box. Not pretty, but fully functional:
I'm doing something similar, but with a lilytech 110v and a xm-18D, in a dishwasher and a larger two zone wine cooler DIY build(s). I'll upload the video of these two under-the-counter medium/large incubators. My plan is to make a color coded wiring harness and rewire a 6 out-let power strip (2 usb) from harbor freight (or the local goodwill). I will then sell these so you match the colors that feed the various 110v equipment, orange for Heat, Orange/stripe H2, Fan Blue, Humidifier Yellow, etc. This way, every piece of equipment can be hot swapped in case of failure, and the power stripe is easily removed for hose down/clean up.
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